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Is it simply 111 dot length a.

We have a exponential function to the power q dot a and want to know what to do.

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Is it simply 111 dot length a.

We have a exponential function to the power q dot a and want to know what to do.

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1/2*sqrt(3)/2 + 1/2*sqrt(3)/2 + 1/2*sqrt(3)/2 = 3sqrt(3)/4?

Its q dot a, and q along 111 direction. a = distance bewtween these 2 atoms.

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Its a vector dotted with a length sqrt(3)/2. Vector 1/2,1/2,1/2,

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It can't be just a "naked" length. It must have a direction associated with it (perhaps it's along the line joining the two atoms). The dot product is defined on vectors; There must be two vectors.Its a vector dotted with a length sqrt(3)/2. Vector 1/2,1/2,1/2,

Suppose v is your vector <1/2,1/2,1/2>. Then the magnitude of v is |v| = sqrt(3)/2.

Now, what is your a? You say it's a length, but what length? Does it have a direction?

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So we have q dot a(the vecor given above) and q is the 111 direction.

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You are saying that a is the vector <1/2,1/2,1/2>, and that another vector q lies in the direction <1,1,1>, and you want to know about the dot product a.q?

So we have q dot a(the vecor given above) and q is the 111 direction.

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There are also vectors (a) in all 8 combinations of +/-1/2,+/-1/2,+/-1/2 as well. Does it mean that we have to compute all the dot product for q and a with all 8 combinations? Or since we only care about the 111 direction, do we only do this for the 1/2,1/2,1/2 case?

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You should be absolutely specific about what vectors you are talking about! What exactly are the components of a. What exactly are the components of q. Otherwise you are asking for an answer to a question that is not well defined. The best I can offer in that case is to say that a dot q = |a||q|cos(Θ), where Θ is the angle between the vectors. Or, if a = <a1,a2,a3> and q = <q1,q2,q3>, then a dot q = a1q1 + a2q2 + a3q3. If the vectors are collinear, then a dot q = |a||b| multiplied by + or - 1 depending upon whether they are parallel or anti-parallel (in the same or opposite directions).I guess thats it. Would it be (3/4)*sqrt(3)?

Yes, since the vectors will point in various directions that are not aligned with the <1,1,1> direction (which is the same direction as <1/2,1/2,1/2>).There are also vectors (a) in all 8 combinations of +/-1/2,+/-1/2,+/-1/2 as well. Does it mean that we have to compute all the dot product for q and a with all 8 combinations? Or since we only care about the 111 direction, do we only do this for the 1/2,1/2,1/2 case?

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Sorry, was what yes we need to do all 8 combinations, or yes yes we care only about the 111 direction? The question does say that we need to sketch the dispersion relaions for the phonon modes.

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If the results of each dot product are being summed in some fashion, then there may be symmetries that you can exploit that will make some contributions cancel with others, so be on the lookout for those.

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