Double Integral in Polar Coordinates

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The discussion focuses on evaluating a double integral in polar coordinates to find the area in the first quadrant between two circles. The first circle has a radius of 16, while the second circle's radius is defined by the equation r = 16cos(θ). The approach involves integrating the area of the larger circle and subtracting the area of the smaller circle, but confusion arises regarding the limits of integration for the second integral. The correct limits should start from the origin to the edge of the smaller circle, which is 16cos(θ), rather than from 8. The integration process includes using the half-angle formula for cos²(θ) to simplify calculations, but an error occurs when applying the factor of 128 in the final steps.
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Homework Statement


Using polar coordinates, evaluate the integral which gives the area which lies in the first quadrant between the circles x2 + y2 = 256 and x2 - 16x + y2 = 0.

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Finding the intervals of integration for the polar coordinates.
From the first equation I get r2 = 256 therefore r = 16
From the second equation I get r2 - 16rcos\theta therefore r = 16cos(\theta)
Since it is the first quadrant theta will be from 0 to pi/2.
Now this is the part where I am confused about. My intuition is that I should integrate the bigger circle and then subtract the integral of the smaller circle within it so I would have something like the following.
\int^{\pi/2}_{0}\int^{16}_{0} r drd\theta - \int^{\pi/2}_{0}\int^{16cos\theta}_{8} r drd\theta.
Is this the right approach?
 
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Sketch the region. The answer should be easy to check using the sketch.

The first integral looks fine. The second one doesn't.
 
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I sketched it out and for the second one I am basing my intervals of integration of r from the center of the circle to the edge of the circle.That seems to make the most sense to me, however, a similar example in my book (which has a circle shifted 2 to the right instead of 8 and has a radius of 1 instead of 8) uses the radius from 0 to 2cos\theta and that doesn't really make sense to me. If you could explain why the radius would be from 0 to 16cos\theta in this case (or if it isn't) then that would be really helpful as I don't have that intuitive understanding yet.
 
Look at ordered pairs (r,θ). If r starts at 8, you will never cover the portion of the half circle that's less than 8 units from the origin.
 
That seems to make sense since if I think of \theta as how much an imaginary line sweeps through and radius as how long that line actually is.
So now that I have the following:
\int^{\pi/2}_{0}\int^{16}_{0} r drd\theta - \int^{\pi/2}_{0}\int^{16cos\theta}_{0} r drd\theta
After the first integration I get.
\int^{\pi/2}_{0} r^2/2 d\theta - \int^{\pi/2}_{0} r^2/2 drd\theta
Plugging in I get
\int^{\pi/2}_{0} 128 d\theta - \int^{\pi/2}_{0} 128cos^2\theta drd\theta
And now I am stuck because I don't exactly remember how to integrate cos2\theta? How do you usually integrate something like cos2\theta again?
 
shards5 said:
How do you usually integrate something like cos2\theta again?

By the half-angle formula,

<br /> \cos^2 \theta = \frac{1 + \cos(2\theta)}{2}<br />

which should make the integration easier.
 
Okay, then after integration I get the following.
128*pi/2 - [1/2\theta + sin(2*\theta)/4]
Plugging in my values I get the following.
128*pi/2 - pi/4 - sin(pi)/4 + sin(0)/4
but this is wrong. I am not sure what I am doing wrong.
 
You forgot the factor of 128 on the second integral.
 

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