Double Integral of x*y^3 + 1 over Surface r=1, tetha 0-Pi, z 0-2: Solving Guide

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a double integral of the function x*y^3 + 1 over a specified surface defined in cylindrical coordinates. The surface is described as a half-cylinder with given limits for theta and z.

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  • Participants explore converting the integrand from Cartesian to cylindrical coordinates, questioning how to find the differential of surface area. There are discussions about the implications of the surface definition and the limits of integration.

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Some participants have offered guidance on converting coordinates and finding the differential of surface area, while others express confusion about the integration process and limits. The conversation reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the problem without reaching a definitive solution.

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There are indications of missing information regarding the limits of integration after the conversion to cylindrical coordinates, and some participants express uncertainty about the expectations for solving the problem.

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Int Int (x*y^3 + 1) dS

where S is the surface r=1, tetha from 0 to Pi and z from 0 to 2.

How can I solve this integral? I haven't got a clue.
 
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What a peculiar question that asks you to evaluate an integrand in cartesian coordinates but defines the surface in cylindrical. I would start by converting x*y^3 to cylindrical coordinates. You should be able to see the solution more clearly then.
 
The given surface is half a cylinder. Convert to cylindrical coordinates. Do you know how to find the "differential of surface area"?
 
HallsofIvy said:
The given surface is half a cylinder. Convert to cylindrical coordinates. Do you know how to find the "differential of surface area"?

No. But I know that x=rcos(t) and y=rsin(t) in cylindrical coords.
 
Odd, if someone expects you to be able to do a problem like this then surely they expect you to be able to integrate over a surface area! Perhaps you need to review your text.

Since we are given that r=1, we have [itex]x= cos(\theta)[/itex], [itex]y= sin(\theta)[/itex], and z= z. The "position vector" of any point on the surface is [itex]cos(\theta)\vec{i}+ sin(\theta)\vec{j}+ z\vec{j}[/itex].

The derivative with respcect to [itex]\theta[/itex] is [itex]-sin(\theta)\vec{i}+ cos(\theta)\vec{j}[/itex] and the derivative with respect to z is [itex]\vec{k}[/itex]. The "fundamental vector product" is the cross product of those two vectors:[itex]cos(\theta)\vec{i}+ sin(\theta)\vec{j}[/itex] and the length of that gives the "differential of surface area". [itex]\sqrt{cos^2(\theta)+ sin^2(\theta)}= 1[itex]so [itex]d\sigma = d\theta dy[/itex].[/itex][/itex]
 
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My book simply says that

Int Int (xy^3+1) dS = Int Int dS + 0 = 2*Pi

I don't understand why...


I converted into cylindrical coords:

Int Int (r^5cos(t)sin((t))^3 + r) dr dt

But what are the limits now?
 
Had a little too much wine with dinner! There should be no "+ 1" in the square root. [itex]d\sigma= d\theta dz[/itex] is the correct differential.

In these coordinates, xy3+ 1 is [itex]cos(\theta)sin^3(\theta)+ 1[/itex] so you want to find
[tex]\int_{\theta= 0}^\pi\int_{z=0}^2 cos(\theta)sin^3(\theta)dzd\theta[/itex][/tex]
 
I understood it now finding some examples in my book. Thank you so much!
 
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