Double integral - reversing order

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a double integral involving the reversal of the order of integration. The original integral is defined over a specific region, and the participants are exploring the implications of changing the order of integration on the result.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to reverse the order of integration but questions the limits they have set. They express confusion over the results obtained from both orders of integration.
  • Some participants suggest drawing a graph of the integration region to clarify the bounds and relationships between x and y.
  • There is a discussion about the correct interpretation of the limits of integration, particularly regarding the bounds for x and y.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the graphical representation of the integration region. There is an acknowledgment of confusion regarding the limits, and some guidance has been offered to help clarify the setup of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may impose specific requirements for demonstrating understanding through the reversal of integration order. There is a reference to an external image that illustrates the region of integration, which may be influencing the discussion.

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Homework Statement



[tex] \displaystyle\int^1_0 \int^{e^x}_{1}dydx[/tex]

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The Attempt at a Solution


the above integral i can do with no problem, but changing the order of integration give me a totally different answer and need to know if i am doing it correct

First off
[tex] \displaystyle\int^1_0 \int^{e^x}_{1}dydx = e^1 - 2[/tex]

To reverse the order of integration i get:
[tex] \displaystyle\int^{e^1}_1 \int^{ln(y)}_{0}dxdy[/tex]
which gives me 1 which is wrong

Before i post how i went about my solution I want to know if i am doing my limit right?
 
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Did you draw a graph of the integration region? x doesn't go from 0 to ln(y).
 
it goes from 0 to ln(e^1) which is 0 to 1

considering y=e^x then x = ln(y)

but I am guessing my understanding is wrong
 
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Ok, these are two questions alike. Can you please tell me if i am completely misunderstanding the region of integration.
I need to show by reversing the order that i still get the same answer.

[URL]http://www.users.on.net/~rdenker/assign1.jpg[/URL]

EDIT: ok, another quick question. For Question 4 in the image here, is my region of integration on the wrong side of the line?
 
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Your graph is on the correct side of the line. But look at it and imagine integrating dx. Isn't ln(y) the LOWER bound for x?
 
that seemed so hard to wrap my head around at the time but is so simple now
thanks!
 

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