Double integrals in polar coordinates

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The problem involves evaluating a double integral in polar coordinates over a specified region defined by two circles in the first quadrant. The circles are described by the equations x² + y² = 4 and x² + y² = 2x.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the transformation of the equations into polar coordinates and the determination of integration bounds. There is mention of the need to visualize the region and consider the symmetry of the setup.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the geometric interpretation of the circles and suggested breaking the integration into parts based on the angles. Others express confusion regarding the bounds of integration and the symmetry of the region.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of the region due to the intersection of the two circles and the implications for setting up the integral. There is an acknowledgment of the need for a diagram to clarify the integration limits.

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Homework Statement


Find

\int{\int_{D}x dA}

where D is the region in Q1 between the circles x2+y2=4 and x2+y2=2x using only polar coordinates.

The Attempt at a Solution


Well, the two circles give me r=2 and r=2 cos \theta, and the integrand is going to be r2cos \theta, but I have no idea how to determine the bounds of integration in this case.
 
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compliant said:
… I have no idea how to determine the bounds of integration in this case.

Hi compliant! :smile:

(have a theta: θ and a pi: π :wink:)

Just integrate θ from 0 to 2π (or -π and π), and integrate r between whatever values it goes between for a fixed value of θ. :wink:
 
I would recommend first drawing a picture. x^2+ y^2= 4 is, of course, a circle with center at (0,0) and radius 2. x^2+ y^2= 2x= x^2- 2x+ y^2= 0 or x^2- 2x+ 1+ y^2= (x- 1)^2+ y^2= 1 is a circle with center at (1, 0) and radius 1: it is tangent to the y-axis at (0,0) and tangent to the first circle at (2, 0). Now think in terms of polar coordinates. Both equations become very simple in polar coordinates. What drawing the graph tells you is that you will want to handle the integration in three parts: \theta= 0 to \pi/2, \theta= \pi/2 to 3\pi/2, and \theta= 3\pi/2 to 2\pi.


suggested, the outside radius (the upper limit of integration) is always 2 and the inner radius (the lower limit of integration, for \theta= 0 to \pi/2 is
 
tiny-tim, thanks for those. desperately needed.


hallsofivy, I did draw the diagram, and found that it was rather inconveniently symmetrical, which was why I got stumped. going by your suggestion, from θ = 0 to θ = π/2, I would be integrating along the right side of the curve, where the upper bound is r = 2, and the lower bound is r = 2 cos θ. I would then solve accordingly, with r2 cos θ as the integrand.

I'm just wondering though, how is the left side of the curve from θ = π/2 to θ = 3π/2 and not θ = π/2 to θ = π ? And as for the third part of the curve that goes from θ = 3π/2 to θ = 2π, that's...a straight line. =/

Argh.
 
sorry to do this, but bump.
 
Hi compliant ! :smile:

I'm confused :confused:

The area is between two circles, one touching both the edge and the centre of the other.

So there are two regions:

the "left" region, which is simply a semicircle, so you know the answer already, and you needn't integrate at all (though if you did, you would integrate a constant, over the whole angle π/2 to 3π/2)

and the "right" region, which is from -π/2 to π/2, which you seem to be ok with. :smile:
 

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