Double Integration: Evaluating z^2 = x^2 + y^2

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The discussion revolves around a double integration problem involving the expression \(\int \int (y^2 z^2 + z^2 x^2 + x^2 y^2) \: dS\) evaluated over the region defined by \(z^2 = x^2 + y^2\) between \(z=1\) and \(z=2\). The original poster has attempted a substitution using polar coordinates and is seeking assistance with the integration process.

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  • Participants discuss the use of trigonometric identities and integration techniques, including integration by parts. There is also clarification regarding the notation of the integrand, specifically whether it includes \(\cos(\theta^2)\) or \(\cos^2(\theta)\). Suggestions are made to simplify the integrals using identities.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing various approaches and clarifications. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of trigonometric identities to simplify the integrals, but no consensus has been reached on a specific method or solution.

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Participants are navigating potential misunderstandings in notation and are exploring different integration techniques. The original poster has expressed difficulty specifically with the integration step, indicating a need for further clarification or assistance.

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Hi
I've been working on a problem and I'm nearly there but I'm struggling with the integration part at the end and was hoping you might be able to help if you have the time. The original question was

\int \int (y^2 z^2 + z^2 x^2 + x^2 y^2) \: dS
Evaluated on the region of z^2 = x^2 + y^2 between z=1 and z=2.
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Then by substituting in x=r*cos(θ) and y=r*sin(θ), and multiplying by 'r' (the Jacobian determinant), I got \sqrt{2} \int_{0}^{2\pi} \int_{1}^{2}(r^5 + r^3 \cos(\theta)^2 \sin(\theta)^2) \: dr \: d\theta

and then I'm stuck. Any help or advice would really be appreciated
Thanks
 
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This can be cracked with trig identities, or done by parts.
 
I haven't done the steps but are you sure the integrand contains cos (theta^2) and sin (theta^2) or is it cos^2 (theta) (cos squared theta) ?
 
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Same thing, he didn't write cos(theta^2), they're outside the parentheses
 
unplebeian said:
I haven't done the steps but are you sure the integrand contains cos (theta^2) and sin (theta^2) or is it cos^2 (theta) (cos srquared theta) ?

It says \cos(\theta)^2 which I read as \cos^2(\theta) as opposed to \cos(\theta^2).

You might replace \cos^2\theta = 1 - \sin^2\theta, then two of the integrals become very easy, and one of them becomes \sin^4\theta for which there are tricks.
 
blochwave said:
Same thing, he didn't write cos(theta^2), they're outside the parentheses

Well, then just go brute force and then apply by parts. I got int( sin^2(2 x theta))

After simplyfying and using by parts I get int( 2*theta*sin(4theta))

By parts again.
 
CompuChip said:
It says \cos(\theta)^2 which I read as \cos^2(\theta) as opposed to \cos(\theta^2).

You might replace \cos^2\theta = 1 - \sin^2\theta, then two of the integrals become very easy, and one of them becomes \sin^4\theta for which there are tricks.

Actually, I was thinking...
\cos \theta \sin \theta = \frac{1}{2} \sin \left( 2 \theta \right)
 

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