Dovall rational numbers under multiplication form a group.

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I know the set of positives rationals form a group under multiplication and that the negative irrationals do not form a group under multiplication because there is no identity or inverse. My question is does the set of all rational numbers under multiplication form a group.
 
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buzzmath said:
I know the set of positives rationals form a group under multiplication and that the negative irrationals do not form a group under multiplication because there is no identity or inverse. My question is does the set of all rational numbers under multiplication form a group.

Hint: does there for every [tex]a \in \textbf{Q}[/tex] exist a unique element [tex]a^{-1}\in\textbf{Q}[/tex] such that [tex]a\cdot a^{-1}=1[/tex]?
 
Yes, it would just be 1/a. That's what I put on my test and got it wrong. He wrote that the set of rational numbers under multiplication is not a group. 1 i rational, the product of any two rationals is rational, 1/a is the inverse, and it's associative. I don't understand.
 
buzzmath said:
Yes, it would just be 1/a. That's what I put on my test and got it wrong. He wrote that the set of rational numbers under multiplication is not a group. 1 i rational, the product of any two rationals is rational, 1/a is the inverse, and it's associative. I don't understand.

Hint 2: does there exist 1/a for a = 0? :smile:
 
buzzmath said:
Yes, it would just be 1/a. That's what I put on my test and got it wrong. He wrote that the set of rational numbers under multiplication is not a group. 1 i rational, the product of any two rationals is rational, 1/a is the inverse, and it's associative. I don't understand.

What's the inverse of 0?
 
Wow, I can't believe I didn't think about that. Thanks