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[Julio R]

Anyone into Torchwood?

 

[willbell]

Anyone into Torchwood?

I am but I've only seen the first 1 1/2 seasons because I watched it on TV and then they stopped playing it. I'm hoping to catch up over the summer.

 

[willbell]

I think this last season is setting up for a total remake of DR WHO. I hope it's a new spin on what star trek did to redo the 1st star trek. This time we will start off with something before an unearthly child and we can see the time wars. DR WHO is great and I would love to see all of the first DR's shows and movies on BBC. The time wars would mke a great setting for a DR WHO movie HINT HINT.

If they do ever reboot doctor who I hope they do it 100% clean slate, I would hate if they went the star trek root.

 

[Algr]

Torchwood is spotty. I really liked "Children of Earth", but Miracle Day sort of lost my interest.

 

[notinthebox]

They didn't put the work into torchwood that it needed

 

[Algr]

The problem with Torchwood is that they took a unique premise, (Traveler in time and space.) and replaced it with the most overused premise on TV. (Crime fighting team in the city.) So it all looks too similar to everything else on TV.

 

[willbell]

I like Torchwood, I'm going through the series right now and just finished 'Children of Earth' which was great!

 

[solar71]

dr. Who fans, unite!

vomit!

 

[Ryuu]

I actually saw the original broadcasts of Dr Who, so I've seen all the now-missing episodes.

you woundn't happen to have recordings of them all, do you?--garbageloads of the episodes from Hartnell & Troughton got wiped out due to neglect on BBC's part. Now, they're trying to recover anything folks may have (illegally--back then) recorded so they can recreate the missing years.

I was really annoyed when William Hartnell got replaced by Patrick Troughton. I kept waiting for him to change back, but it never happened. Got kinda bored after Peter Davison and stopped watching.

BTW, what was the name of the actress who played the primitive companion, always running around like a female warrior out of D&D? She ended up pairing off with another timelord!?

Loise Jameson, played Lelah--damned cute in that outfit, too!

The Tom Baker episode they played Sunday was great. Wish they would do that more often. They sure have improved the inside of the TARDIS. Tom Bakers TARDIS looked like something from a high school play.

Baker was the Doctor when I first started to watch. One of the best imo & nearly for 10yrs. Unfortunately, nearly everything back then looked like it came from a high school play: the sets, the props, the costumes, the special effects, many of the supporting cast...

I really liked Ecellson & Tennant--fantastic actors--and I wished they had lasted longer, like 10+yrs each.

But the wreck they made of the TARDIS just irritated me. I kept waiting and waiting for some guest star to show up, go inside the TARDIS, look about in stunned amazement, and just when the Doctor starts his spiel about "yeah, yeah, bigger on the..." only to be interrupted by the stranger start screaming "WHAT THE BLOOD HELL DID YOU DO TO THIS...THIS...OH MY GOD! THIS *WAS* A TYPE 40!"

 

[Enigman]

So... thoughts on the twelfth?

 

[Drakkith]

So... thoughts on the twelfth?

Is Dr. Who on air again?

 

[strangerep]

Sorry Ryuu, I only saw your post just now...

you woundn't happen to have recordings of them all, do you?

Ha, no. (You realize those episodes were pre-VCR, right?)

Baker was the Doctor when I first started to watch. [...]

The thing that makes me laugh the most about Tom Baker is the stories/rumors about his off-screen behaviour: a bit too keen on fondling the young female actresses. (He wouldn't get away with that these days.) The mischief is still in his eyes during his cameo as the "curator" at the end of Matt Smith's final episode, so I guess the "naughty boy" is still in there...

I really liked Ecellson & Tennant

I liked Eccleston (& Piper), but Tennant... not so much.

I still like the original theme & video the best.

 

[strangerep]

Is Dr. Who on air again?

I just saw the 1st episode of the 12th -- I was quite happy with it, except for the (modified-yet-again) opening titles and theme music. Less frenetic -- which I find good -- but never as mysterious as the original series' "slightly menacing, acid-trip" theme.

[BTW, I see there's also a new season of Torchwood. Good that they're trying, but I can't give it many credit points so far.]

 

[Ivan Seeking]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlTFMp7_e6o

 

[Astronuc]

I watched the original Dr. Who in 1964 (William Hartnell 1963-1966). I moved from Australia to the US and lost TV for a while.

My all time favorite Dr. Who is Tom Baker (with Sarah and Romana). I watched his episodes and was sad to see him depart.

While I appreciate the efforts of 5 through 8 and later, Baker will always be the premiere DW - IMO.

I did see some recent episodes (with 10th and 11th DWs), and the plots were quite clever.

 

[HallsofIvy]

So, still no female doctor! I'm still waiting!

(Yes, Tom Baker was the doctor- that pretty much goes without saying.)

 

[AnTiFreeze3]

So, still no female doctor! I'm still waiting!

(Yes, Tom Baker was the doctor- that pretty much goes without saying.)

Never seen the show, but during dinner last night, two friends had a debate as to why the doctor can't be, say, a gay male or maybe a woman. According to a friend who's seen all the episodes, the doctor's reincarnations are controlled by him in that he reappears closely to what he identifies as. He was born a straight white male, and identifies as a straight white male, so he'll continue to reincarnate as a straight white male. That's as much influence as he has over the process, though.

In retrospect, using the word "identify" makes me come off as one of the LGBTQRRRR779-ZZ people that refuse to be referred to in normal human pronouns, etc. etc. But since the Dr. is a straight white guy, and he's comfortable as such, he'll continue to be one.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Baker will always be the premiere DW - IMO.

(Yes, Tom Baker was the doctor- that pretty much goes without saying.)

There is nothing more ironic than a Who fan who is stuck in the past.

 

[HallsofIvy]

Well, Dr. Who was for most of the Tom Baker episodes!

 

[Ivan Seeking]

True, and mostly in about 16th Century England by the looks of things...

 

[Enigman]

So, still no female doctor! I'm still waiting!

Still maybe a female Master, though...

 

[shukujo]

I have seen both episodes 1 and 2 of the currently airing season 8 - it's going to take some time for me to become acclimated to the new doctor's style, it is much more subtle than previous recent doctors have been. very much doubt we'll be seeing much in the way of a "geronimo!" or even an "allon-Z!" from this doctor. That being said, the actor himself seems to be padding around in a circle on his favorite cushion, like a cat or small dog will before settling down for a nap. The new teacher at Clara's school looks to be a good prospect for the Companion B spot, & he's quite dashing, isn't he? I look forward to future episodes.

 

[Enigman]

Allons-y, actually. French for "Let's Go!".

Twelfth may find a more inconspicuous catch word like the ninth, though.

 

[~HAVOC~]

http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/6725378/Complete_Original_Doctor_Who

i want to say this has every extra and all a total of 800+ doctor who episodes enjoy :)

all the classic old doctors that is lol

 

[Enigman]

I want a new companion like Ace or Capt. Harkness; Clara bores me and doesn't fit with Capaldi... She may have been bearable with the teenager on sugar high 11th but with 12th she just doesn't work.

 

[strangerep]

Clara bores me and doesn't fit with Capaldi... She may have been bearable with the teenager on sugar high 11th but with 12th she just doesn't work.

I agree -- but I was bored with her even with Matt Smith. Strangely, a young Billie Piper with older Christopher Eccleston seemed to work fine, imho.

Come to think of it, I got bored quickly with Martha Jones, and as for Donna Nobel -- couldn't stand her. Also Mickey Smith and Rory (companions 2nd class). Amy Pond was just bearable.

Dunno about the 12th doctor series though. I'm only up to the 3rd episode, but I get the distinct impression that nobody really knows what they're supposed to be doing.

 

[Enigman]

Dunno about the 12th doctor series though. I'm only up to the 3rd episode, but I get the distinct impression that nobody really knows what they're supposed to be doing.

Character development imo, is really not one of Moffat's strong points. He often sacrifices fleshing out a character for a flashier and more convoluted plot line and twists the characters into fitting the plot.* Right now I am getting a sense more of 7th Doctor with all the talking people around into submitting/jumping of skin balloons...

As for Coleman, I liked the premise of the character but now the impossible girl who could hack into the Dalek prison and Great Intelligence is teaching English and going on bad dates...

*I'm not complaining about the convolutions but RTD did the characters so much better...

 

[Enigman]

The 4th - 5th - 7th - 10th - 11th Doctors give the Stone Henge speech (impressions).

 

[Algr]

Okay. The moon is a giant egg. Clara can tell off the writers while she is at it.

 

[strangerep]

Okay. The moon is a giant egg. Clara can tell off the writers while she is at it.

I share your sentiment, but,... it made me wonder: why is "moon-as-giant-egg" more outrageous/ridiculous than the concept of the Tardis itself?

 

[Vanadium 50]

I agree. That was awful. That story needed an editor badly. Not only was the story terrible, it didn't really fit any of the characters. The Spock's Brain of Doctor Who.

 

[Enigman]

Twelfth may find a more inconspicuous catch word like the ninth, though.

I like the new catch phrase.

 

[Algr]

I share your sentiment, but,... it made me wonder: why is "moon-as-giant-egg" more outrageous/ridiculous than the concept of the Tardis itself?

Current physics has some "definite maybes" when it comes to time travel. Even Hawking said that he felt that the best argument against it was that "we are not besieged with tourists from the future." But for the moon - we just know too much about it for the space dragon to be plausible. What is it eating? Wouldn't the embryo's growth cause obvious changes to the surface of the moon? (It can't be solid like an eggshell.) What does flapping it's tail accomplish? Shouldn't gravity crush the dragon into a ball?

 

[Enigman]

Bechdel and the Doctor
university-study-on-sexism-in-bbcs-doctor-who-infographic

 

[Enigman]

I loved Matheison's writing of both the Orient express and Flatline. Three more episodes to go. :(

 

[Vanadium 50]

I thought Mummy was OK, but I really liked Flatline. It was the most serious Dr. Who in a long time, and at the same time, the funniest.

"It’s bigger on the inside"
“I don't think that statement has ever been truer.”

 

[Enigman]

I can hear River screaming for blood after the last episode...silence in the library be damned.

 

[strangerep]

I can hear River screaming for blood after the last episode...silence in the library be damned.

Huh?? If you're referring to the pash, you do realize it's Capaldi she's snogging, right,...?

:D

 

[Enigman]

Basically what I want the finale to be...

Spoiler

http://unrealityshout.com/files/imagecache/image_460/river-song-stormcage.jpg

 

[AlabamaCajun]

Wow, I still have a lot to catch up on. I saw a few shows from the original in the 70s then heard people talking about it this year and decided to get the DVDs. Cable is the only place we get it in lower Alabama and it's on a tier I don't have. I've been pulling in a backlog of DVDs including the classics.
I have to say, the BBC has done a great job with the series capturing the old style and bringing it to the new century. I'm in mid Tennant-Ageyman 3 series so this is all spoilers (NP). I have to agree with Willbell the physics and science is off enough that it's funny where other Shows and Movies try to get it right you find yourself trying to correct it. A working sonic is probably on the top of my list, that would be most handy to fix so many problems. And a tardis, it's smaller on the outside so less taxes for where you park it.

 

[Algr]

Well, there is always iTunes. If you don't watch too much it is cheaper than cable.

 

[John Fluharty]

I started watching it on PBS in the 80s when they were showing Tom Baker episodes. I was quickly hooked on it and watched it any time I could. I was very pleased when they started it back up in '05 and still love the show.

 

[strangerep]

I just finished re-watching re-runs from Christopher Eccleston through to Capaldi. Gotta say, I found Clara Oswald more enjoyable the 2nd or 3rd time around.

Anyway,... here's a controversial (and highly subjective) question: which episode (or sub-series) of Dr Who is your favorite?

Mine is The Rings of Akhaten, imperfectly executed though it is. Maybe because it's a long way from science fiction -- more like fantasy.

 

[Vanadium 50]

Some of the ones I thought were excellent:

Pertwee: Inferno, The Terror of the Autons, The Claws of Axos.
T. Baker: The Genesis of the Daleks, City of Death
Tennant: Blink, The Girl In The Fireplace
Capaldi: Flatline

 

[Enigman]

Time Lord Victorious phase of the Tenth and the End of Time for Tennant.
A good man goes to war, The Doctor's wife for Smith.
And for Capaldi - Flatline, and Magician's Apprentice. I really hope the rest of the series carries on the momentum.

 

[OmCheeto]

I just finished watching the 2005-2014 series on Hulu.
I'm now in the process of watching the 1963-89 series.
@ 3 hours per day, it should only take me 50 days.
The parts written for actresses certainly have evolved in the last 50 years. In season 1, the Doctor's granddaughter screams like a banshee every time something scary happens, which is way too often, IMHO. She's like a one person Beatles/Bieber audience. (I just watched videos for both. Young girls have apparently not evolved.)

For anyone not familiar with the entire 50 years, the Daleks showed up in season 1, episode 5, and were despicable from the start.
I was curious where the Doctor developed his hatred for them, in the new series.
I hadn't watched the series since probably 1977, as Tom Baker was the only Doctor I previously recognized.

Anyways, I'll see you in November.

 

[Enigman]

Time Lord Victorious phase of the Tenth and the End of Time for Tennant.
A good man goes to war, The Doctor's wife for Smith.
And for Capaldi - Flatline, and Magician's Apprentice. I really hope the rest of the series carries on the momentum.

It does.

The last episode 'Zygon inversion' is possibly the best episode I have seen in all of television.
I would have been quite satisfied with all the Clara-Bonnie mind games and the terrifying atmosphere of the first part of episode but then Capaldi stepped in and delivered the most Doctoresque monologue in the history of Doctor Who. I am having a very hard time imagining any of his predecessors pulling that one off. This and 'I am the man who stops the monsters' are going to be what we remember him by.

 

[strangerep]

The last episode 'Zygon inversion' is possibly the best episode I have seen in all of television. [...]
I would have been quite satisfied with all the Clara-Bonnie mind games and the terrifying atmosphere of the first part of episode but then Capaldi stepped in and delivered the most Doctoresque monologue in the history of Doctor Who. I am having a very hard time imagining any of his predecessors pulling that one off.

Hey! That's almost a spoiler -- I haven't seen that episode yet. (It airs in about 2 hrs time in my part of the world.)

 

[Enigman]

Think of it as more of a teaser then. You are in for a treat.

 

[strangerep]

then Capaldi stepped in and delivered the most Doctoresque monologue in the history of Doctor Who.

The underlying sentiments in that monologue have been a recurring feature since... forever. (Do you remember the first Dalek adventure? He tried to find a way for the Daleks and Thals to "get along", but failed. Similarly with humans and silurians, which also ended badly.

This was the first time where his efforts seemed to work. (Anyone remember another example? I don't.)

(BTW, I wonder why the Zygon makeup/costumes were so lame. Well below the usual standard for alien depictions in the new Dr Who series.)

I am having a very hard time imagining any of his predecessors pulling that one off.

I think Christopher Eccleston could have done it.