Drag coefficient of a sphere ()

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The discussion revolves around the drag coefficient of spheres, particularly focusing on how surface roughness affects drag force in different flow conditions. Participants explore the relationship between Reynolds number and flow characteristics, specifically in the context of experiments involving styrofoam balls and air supply systems.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that rough surfaces on balls can lead to higher drag forces, but this relationship is dependent on the Reynolds number of the flow.
  • Another participant mentions a discussion with a physics professor that resulted in conflicting conclusions about the impact of surface roughness on drag coefficients, particularly referencing golf balls and air flow conditions.
  • A third participant provides specific data regarding dimpled golf balls, indicating that flow attachment varies with speed, affecting drag differently at various velocities.
  • A later reply clarifies that the Reynolds number is determined by the size of the object and the velocity of the air around it, rather than the air supply itself, and provides the equation for calculating it.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effects of surface roughness on drag coefficients and the conditions under which these effects manifest. There is no consensus on the relationship between Reynolds number and drag for rough versus smooth spheres.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions regarding flow conditions, such as whether the air supply produces a smooth flow and the specific characteristics of the flow around the spheres. The discussion highlights the complexity of determining flow regimes and their impact on drag coefficients.

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While writing a physics report, I obtained a data that
for balls of rough surfaces, there is a higher drag force and thus
the ball can stay stable at a much smaller angle when put up in an airstream.
However, while analyzing this result, I found out that the drag coefficient is not always
bigger for rough spheres : it depends on the reynolds number of the flow.
I would really like to know whether the flow past a sphere
(in my experiment, styrofoam balls) is attached flow (Stokes flow) and steady separated flow, separated unsteady flow, separated unsteady flow with a laminar boundary layer at the upstream side, or post-critical separated flow, with a turbulent boundary layer.
Put simply, what is the reynolds number of the air coming out of an air supply?
For further information, the air supply used in our lab was SF-9216, PASCO.
 
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After discussion with an intimate physics professor, we reached contradicting results:
like in the case of golf balls, the rough surface can make air pockets,
or when the air meets a certain condition (some sort of Reynolds number boundaries)
the drag coefficient is bigger for rougher spheres.
Also, we concluded that the air flow from the supply is turbulent.
Could you please help us out? Thank you!
 
The reynolds number is not determined by your air supply. It is based on the size of your object and the velocity of the air around it. Assuming that your supply gives a reasonably smooth flow (not always a guarantee), you can calculate the reynolds number using the equation Re = ρvL/μ, where ρ is the density of the fluid (air, in this case), v is the velocity of the fluid, L is a characteristic dimension of your object (for a sphere, this would be the diameter), and μ is the viscosity of the fluid. Density and viscosity can be calculated or looked up on a table based on the temperature and pressure of the air in your lab, and you should be able to measure your flow velocity directly (or if you do not have that capability, it may be specified in the manual of your air supply).

Once you know the reynolds number, then you will have a better idea of what kind of flow conditions your sphere will have around it, and that will determine the effect that dimples will have.

(Wiki even has a fairly nice image showing the relevant flow regimes: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Reynolds_behaviors.png)
 

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