Drawing flow lines of an irrotational and sourceless flow

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The problem involves drawing flow lines for the function f(x+iy)=x^2-y^2+2ixy, which is related to the study of irrotational and sourceless flows in fluid dynamics and complex analysis.

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  • Participants discuss the application of Cauchy Theorem and its implications for the flow being irrotational and sourceless. There are attempts to parameterize the equation and explore integration along curves in both the complex plane and the R2 plane. Questions arise regarding the validity of the assumptions made about the flow's characteristics.

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The discussion reveals differing interpretations of the flow's properties, with some participants questioning the initial conclusions about irrotationality and sourcelessness. Guidance is offered regarding the use of the conjugate function and Green's theorem, but no consensus is reached on the correct characterization of the flow.

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Participants note potential constraints in their understanding, such as the distinction between local and global properties of the flow, and the implications of integrating different forms of the function. There is also mention of homework rules that may influence the approach taken.

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Homework Statement



Draw flow lines of f(x+iy)=x^2-y^2+2ixy

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I know the flow is irrotational and sourceless by Cauchy Theorem but I don't know how to draw the flow lines... I'm thinking I might have to parameterize the equation and go from there? Any help is appreciated
 
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This is strange. f(z)=z^2 is certainly analytic, but curl[x^2-y^2,2xy]=4y in the z direction, certainly not irrotational. Did I make a mistake?
 
I used Cauchy Theorem to integrate around closed curve (unit circle) which is equal to 0... I thought this meant that it was irrotational and sourceless (at least locally), maybe not globally though. The book says to integrate the conjugate.. so (x-iy)^2 and if it is 0 then it is irrotational and sourceless..
 
I guess f(z) integrated along a curve on the complex plane is different from the vector field [real{f(x,y)}, imag{f(x,y)}] integrated along a curve in the R2 plane. So your sourceless and irrotational assertion are both incorrect.
 
what did I do wrong? and how should I go about it?
 
d2j2003 said:
what did I do wrong? and how should I go about it?

let f(z)=u(x,y)+iv(x,y), f(z)dz=(u+iv)(dx+idy)=udx-vdy+i(vdx+udy), while [u,v].[dx,dy]=udx+vdy, obviously different. However, Conjugate(f(z))dz seem to recover the vector field integral correctly...
 
so what happens if we do use the conjugate? it is sourceless and irrotational right?
 
ok so I went back and tried to do it using green's theorem.. but then it shows that the function is not irrotational and not sourceless.. so something must be wrong because it must be 1 or both of these... I'm guessing maybe I missed a negative sign somewhere or something..
 
looks like it is neither irrotational nor sourceless.. so no streamlines are necessary (i guess)

is this correct? Or can I still draw streamlines?
 
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d2j2003 said:
looks like it is neither irrotational nor sourceless.. so no streamlines are necessary (i guess)

is this correct? Or can I still draw streamlines?

You can certainly draw streamlines. If there's curl. You'll see closed loops. If there's divergence, you'll see streamlines converging into a sink or diverging from a source. They can coexist. A streamline is nothing but a curve whose tangent is in the same direction as the vector field at the same point. You can parameterize the curve and solve some DE for it, but I suspect there's an easier way for your problem, because it is a homework problem, I suppose?
 

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