Vector fields question; not sure how to approach?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the stream function Ψ(x,y) = Asin(πnx)*sin(πmy), which describes circular flow within a specified region R. Participants are tasked with graphing streamlines for specific values of A, m, and n, and explaining the confinement of flow to the region R.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the challenges of graphing the stream function and suggest various graphing tools, including Desmos and MATLAB. There are questions about the term "consitive integers," which is clarified as "positive integers." Some participants express frustration with the complexity of the formula for graphing and explore the behavior of streamlines outside the defined region R.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing different tools and methods for graphing the stream function. Some have noted that the flow does not cross the boundary of region R, suggesting a theoretical explanation for this behavior. There is no explicit consensus on a single approach, but multiple avenues are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the resources they can use. The complexity of the stream function and the need to understand its behavior in the specified region R are central to the discussion.

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Homework Statement


The stream function Ψ(x,y) = Asin(πnx)*sin(πmy) where m and n are consitive integers and A is a constant, describes circular flow in the region R = {(x,y): 0≤x≤1, 0≤y≤1 }. Graph several streamlines with A=10 and m=n=1 and describe the flow. Explain why the flow is confined to the region R.

Homework Equations


The y partial derivative of the stream function equals the x-component of the vector field
The x partial derivative of the stream function equals the y-component of the vector field
I'm assuming the vector field is source-free

The Attempt at a Solution



The streamlines should take the equation C=10sin(πx)sin(πy) where C is some constant. I have no idea how to graph this and every online grapher that I've used has been unable to graph it. I imagine I need to have some idea of how to do this before I can determine why the flow is confined to the region R
 
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Elmer Correa said:

Homework Statement


The stream function Ψ(x,y) = Asin(πnx)*sin(πmy) where m and n are consitive integers and A is a constant, describes circular flow in the region R = {(x,y): 0≤x≤1, 0≤y≤1 }. Graph several streamlines with A=10 and m=n=1 and describe the flow. Explain why the flow is confined to the region R.

Homework Equations


The y partial derivative of the stream function equals the x-component of the vector field
The x partial derivative of the stream function equals the y-component of the vector field
I'm assuming the vector field is source-free

The Attempt at a Solution



The streamlines should take the equation C=10sin(πx)sin(πy) where C is some constant. I have no idea how to graph this and every online grapher that I've used has been unable to graph it. I imagine I need to have some idea of how to do this before I can determine why the flow is confined to the region R

What are "consitive integers"?
 
Elmer Correa said:
I have no idea how to graph this and every online grapher that I've used has been unable to graph it.
If you have access to it, I would recommend MATLAB for doing this. It has a specialized function for plotting streamlines. See the description here https://www.mathworks.com/help/matlab/ref/streamline.html
 
Ray Vickson said:
What are "consitive integers"?
Positive
 
Elmer Correa said:
I don't need to graph a vector field, just level curves in 2D
Elmer Correa said:
The streamlines should take the equation C=10sin(πx)sin(πy) where C is some constant.
You can use desmos if you just set C to some numbers like 0, 1, 2, etc. and graph the set of equations with different C's simultaneously.
 
NFuller said:
You can use desmos if you just set C to some numbers like 0, 1, 2, etc. and graph the set of equations with different C's simultaneously.
I've tried, the formula is too complicated to graph
 
Elmer Correa said:
I've tried, the formula is too complicated to graph
If you have access to Maple the task is easy. I plotted over the region ##0 \leq x,y \leq 1.2##, just to see what happens if you go outside the region ##R## that you specified. It seems that the streamlines do not "cross" the boundary of ##R##, but rather, you get a whole new set of orbits for a whole new flow regime. I guess the question is asking you to explain this behavior theoretically.

I assume Mathematica has similar capabilities, but I do not have access to it so cannot say for sure.

>P:=10*sin(Pi*x)*sin(Pi*y);
P := 10 sin(Pi x) sin(Pi y)

> with(plots):
> contourplot(P,x=0..1.2,y=0..1.2,contours=20);

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Any of the set Mathematica, Matlab, Maple, or many others should do fine to be honest.

Also, you do not need to graph anything to show that the flow is contained. It is sufficient to verify that the boundary of the region is a level curve of the flow function.
 
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Elmer Correa said:
I've tried, the formula is too complicated to graph
How? I literally just typed in the formula and it worked fine.
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