Dynamic Systems: Calculating Boom Crane's Transfer Motion

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The discussion revolves around the dynamics of a boom crane, specifically focusing on calculating the transfer motion and natural frequency of the system under the influence of various forces and constraints. The participants explore the application of Newton's Second Law of rotational motion, energy methods, and the complexities introduced by the hydraulic cylinder's loading angle.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a problem involving a boom crane, detailing the parameters such as angles, weights, and spring constants, and seeks guidance on deriving differential equations and transfer motion.
  • Another participant requests the original poster to share their calculations to better understand their approach and provide assistance.
  • A participant suggests using an energy method, specifically Eksergian's Method or the Lagrange equation, to formulate the system equation, arguing that it may simplify the analysis compared to using Newton's Second Law directly.
  • This participant notes that the system exhibits nonlinear characteristics due to a term proportional to the square of the vibratory displacement, which complicates the formulation from a Newtonian perspective.
  • The same participant reports an undamped natural frequency of approximately 5.7 rad/s, inviting comparisons with the original poster's results.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the best approach to solve the problem, with participants presenting different methodologies and perspectives on the complexity of the system. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the most effective method for deriving the equations of motion.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the potential challenges in applying Newton's Second Law due to the unique loading conditions of the hydraulic cylinder and the nonlinear behavior of the system, which may not be easily addressed through traditional methods.

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There is boom crane with a bucket attached at the end. The angle of the boom "theta" is 60 degree. The weight of the bucket with a man in it is 200Kg. The mass of the boom is acting at centre of the boom (length of the boom is 10m) is 600 Kg.

There is a cylinder attached to lift the boom 1m from the boom hinge. The hinge of the cylinder is (0.5, -0.3) with respect to the boom hinge (0,0).

Stiffness of the boom modeled by a rotational spring attached at boom hinge is 3x10^5 Nm/rad.

The Cylinder modeled as spring (K= 4x10^6 Nm)and a damper

Assume, 1degree freedom for the oscillation of the crane.

(i)Find Diff. eqn. using Newtons 2nd law of rotational motion at boom's hinge
(ii)Crane natural frequency
(iii)Derive the transfer motion for angular motion as function of wind force F (F=500N, constant & normal to the boom)

I HAVE DONE MY CAL. BUT PLEASE HELP ME IN GUIDING THE APPROACH.
 
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It might help if you actually posted the work you have done. Otherwise we're not going to know your approach or how to help you.
 
Thank you for your reply.

Here is the diagram and my work for your ref.

Thanx
 

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Hello,

Please answer me.

Thanx
 
I realize that the problem statement said to use Newton's Second law to formulate the system equation, and in principle that should be sufficient. That does not always make it the easiest way to work the problem, however, and in this case I don't thing it is. The thing that makes this problem more difficult is the manner in which the hydraulic cylinder enters into the situation, and the fact that the cylinder loads act at such a strange angle to the rest of the system.

I worked through the formulation using an energy method called Eksergian's Method (you could also use the Lagrange equation to get the same result). The benefit of doing that is that it forces you to focus first on the kinematics of the problem, and in particular of the cylinder, and then deal later with the kinetics.

What I found is that the system is actually somewhat nonlinear, with a term proportional to the square of the vibratory displacement, and that would be hard to put together from a Newton's Law perspective (at least I think it would), but it falls out very directly from the energy approach.

Ignoring the squared term in the displacement and the damping term, I got an undamped natural frequency of approximately 5.7 rad/s. Do you have any results to compare to this?
 

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