Dynamics - determining an angle

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In the discussion about the mechanism OAB, participants focus on calculating the angular speed of the connecting rod AB and the speed of piston B when angle Phi is 30 degrees. Confusion arises regarding the velocity diagram and how the angle between Va and the X-axis is determined to be 30 degrees. Clarification is provided that point A's circular motion around point O influences this angle, leading to a realization that the angle is actually 60 degrees when considering the positive X-axis. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding angular relationships in mechanical systems. Overall, the participants successfully navigate through the complexities of the problem with collaborative insights.
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Homework Statement



http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3696/abaod.jpg

In mechanism OAB, as described in the drawing, shaft OA rotates counterclockwise at an angular speed of 50 rad/sec.

Given:
OA = AB = R = 300mm

For the condition where angle Phi is 30 degrees, calculate:

A) The angular speed of the connecting rod AB
B) The speed of piston B

The Attempt at a Solution



Right now my confusion emanates from the velocities diagram of the solution manual. Notice that they've determined that the angle between Va and the X axis is 30 degrees. Based on what principle has this been determined? Yes, we do know that angles ABO and AOB are 30 degrees, but I don't see how that necessarily relates to the fact that the angle between Va and X axis is 30.

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1733/velocitiesdiagram.jpg
 
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Can you say something about the angle between OA and vA?

And the angle between OA and the x-axis (in its positive direction)?
 
I'm sorry, I forgot a fact

OA = AB = R = 300mm
 
I like Serena said:
Can you say something about the angle between OA and vA?

Well, no, because I don't know at what angle do I pitch vA. I don't know how they've come up with the fact it's 30 degrees.
And the angle between OA and the x-axis (in its positive direction)?

Well, that's a given to us, 120 degrees
 
Femme_physics said:
Well, no, because I don't know at what angle do I pitch vA. I don't know how they've come up with the fact it's 30 degrees.

And what if you consider that point A makes a circular motion around point O? :confused:


Femme_physics said:
Well, that's a given to us, 120 degrees

Not that one - the other side (with the positive x axis)! :wink:
 
And what if you consider that point A makes a circular motion around point O?

Great explanation. I can see clearly now the rain is gone :)


Not that one - the other side (with the positive x axis)!

Um, I guess I had a different idea of positive. Then it's 60 degrees! :) I think I'm able to unravel a lot now thanks to you. Hmm. Now I guess I can carry on, but class is starting in 50 minutes and I got to catch a ride. Thanks ILS for all the great help. :) I hope that now I'll be able to solve it without your godly touch directing me at the right course. :)
 
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