Dynamics Question Involving two blocks on a plane

AI Thread Summary
The discussion revolves around a dynamics problem involving two blocks on a plane, focusing on the forces acting on the system. The user attempts to analyze the forces, including gravity and friction, to determine the conditions for motion. They derive an inequality involving the angle of inclination and coefficients of friction but realize their solution is incorrect. A suggestion is made to reconsider the forces of friction, particularly how they relate to the masses involved when the system is stationary. The conversation emphasizes the importance of accurately accounting for frictional forces in such problems.
James 94
Messages
1
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



http://i.imgur.com/K2hYHgq.png
Picture here with question.

Homework Equations



F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution



For the system to begin moving, a>0 therefore

Fnet>0

I drew some FBDs and came up with four relevant forces total; the force of gravity along the plane for each of the two blocks, and the force of friction on the plane by m1 and m2, and the force of friction on m1 by m2. I ended up with something like this (g is cancelled):

m2sinx - m1 sinx - um1cosx - u(m1+m2)cosx > 0

tan x > (2um1+um2)/(m2-m1)

And solved for x from there.

However, my answer is wrong. I think I'm getting stuck with the forces of friction, the denominator in my expression (m2-m1) seems very reasonable considering the system should act similarly to a block of mass m2-m1 with the extra force of friction.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Welcome to PF!

If your equation is from a FBD of m1 you may want to reconsider which mass is involved in the expression for the frictional force. (hint: if the system is not moving, can the force of friction then depend on m2?)
 
Last edited:
I multiplied the values first without the error limit. Got 19.38. rounded it off to 2 significant figures since the given data has 2 significant figures. So = 19. For error I used the above formula. It comes out about 1.48. Now my question is. Should I write the answer as 19±1.5 (rounding 1.48 to 2 significant figures) OR should I write it as 19±1. So in short, should the error have same number of significant figures as the mean value or should it have the same number of decimal places as...
Thread 'A cylinder connected to a hanging mass'
Let's declare that for the cylinder, mass = M = 10 kg Radius = R = 4 m For the wall and the floor, Friction coeff = ##\mu## = 0.5 For the hanging mass, mass = m = 11 kg First, we divide the force according to their respective plane (x and y thing, correct me if I'm wrong) and according to which, cylinder or the hanging mass, they're working on. Force on the hanging mass $$mg - T = ma$$ Force(Cylinder) on y $$N_f + f_w - Mg = 0$$ Force(Cylinder) on x $$T + f_f - N_w = Ma$$ There's also...
Back
Top