(E&M) Charge and electric field in a two plate system.

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving two metal plates separated by a vacuum, with a specified potential difference and dimensions. Participants are tasked with calculating the charge and electric field in this system, as well as plotting related graphs.

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  • Participants discuss the electric field between the plates and question the values they have calculated. There are attempts to clarify the behavior of the electric field inside the conductors and the implications of the given potential difference.

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Some participants have provided hints and confirmations regarding the electric field calculations, while others express confusion about their results. The conversation has shifted towards informal exchanges, but there are still technical inquiries being made.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which includes specific requirements for calculations and graphing. There is an informal social element as some participants recognize each other from their university.

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1. Two metal plates, 10 mm thick, are held a distance z=40 mm apart with a potential difference of 10 V across them. As you look at them the positive plate is on the left. In between the plates is a vacuum. Ignoring edge effects and assuming unit area for the plates, calculate both the charge and the electric field within this system. Hence, plot a graph of charge density against position across the 60 mm from the back of one plate to the back of the other. Hence draw a graph of electric field against position over the same range.2. Homework Equations ?
3. The Attempt at a Solution - did but got stupid answers.
 
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Chewy247 said:
1. Two metal plates, 10 mm thick, are held a distance z=40 mm apart with a potential difference of 10 V across them. As you look at them the positive plate is on the left. In between the plates is a vacuum. Ignoring edge effects and assuming unit area for the plates, calculate both the charge and the electric field within this system. Hence, plot a graph of charge density against position across the 60 mm from the back of one plate to the back of the other. Hence draw a graph of electric field against position over the same range.


2. Homework Equations ?



3. The Attempt at a Solution - did but got stupid answers.

Welcome to the PF.

What is the electric field inside the conductors themselves (inside the plates, from back to front)?

What is the value of the electric field between the plates? You are given the numbers 10V and 40mm apart. What are the units of electric field?...
 
electric field between the plates: V/D = 250 v/m is that right? for the plates that would be 1000 v/m. you see that's where I started thinking wtf.
 
Chewy247 said:
electric field between the plates: V/D = 250 v/m is that right? for the plates that would be 1000 v/m. you see that's where I started thinking wtf.

Correct on the field strength between the plates. Remember, though, that there can be no electric field inside of a conductor...
 
Great. I've got it sussed now. Thanks for the hint my man!
 
Chewy247 said:
1. Two metal plates, 10 mm thick, are held a distance z=40 mm apart with a potential difference of 10 V across them. As you look at them the positive plate is on the left. In between the plates is a vacuum. Ignoring edge effects and assuming unit area for the plates, calculate both the charge and the electric field within this system. Hence, plot a graph of charge density against position across the 60 mm from the back of one plate to the back of the other. Hence draw a graph of electric field against position over the same range.


2. Homework Equations ?



3. The Attempt at a Solution - did but got stupid answers.

do you by any chance do physics at the university of hull ;)
 
Hahah Yeah I do. Do you happen to have gone there in the past? Coz I've never heard of a tom brown.
 
Chewy247 said:
Hahah Yeah I do. Do you happen to have gone there in the past? Coz I've never heard of a tom brown.

haha no I am there now in 1st year, recognised a question from the em assignment and figured it most be someone in my class lol. Tom Brown is just a nickname, real name is chris. I am the tall guy with glasses, usually sits near the back :)
 
Tall guy with glasses, can't say I've noticed ya... I must be too busy swatting or sleeping in lectures. lol I'm the guy that knocks around with the old git and the ****-knuckle in the halo reach hoodie, also near the back.
 
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