Easy free-falling kinematics question help

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The discussion revolves around a kinematics problem involving a rock thrown from a building with an initial upward velocity, considering gravitational acceleration and the height of the building. The original poster seeks assistance in calculating the time it takes for the rock to reach the ground.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the kinematic equation to find the time of flight, expressing uncertainty about their approach and the implications of the negative time solution. Other participants question the validity of the negative time and discuss the physical interpretation of the results.

Discussion Status

Participants have provided feedback on the original poster's calculations, affirming the need for a positive time solution. There is ongoing exploration of whether the time taken to reach maximum height is accounted for in the original equation, with some guidance offered regarding the equation's inclusivity of the entire motion.

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The original poster expresses concern about the completeness of their solution, particularly regarding the upward motion before the downward fall. The discussion includes references to the physical context of the problem and the implications of the chosen sign conventions.

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Homework Statement


If the rock is thrown from the top of the building with a velocity of 5m/s [Up].
And you know acceleration due to gravity is 9.81m/s^2 [Down].
And the height of the building is 50m.

Please help! I can't find the time for it to reach the bottom! I am letting up be positive!

Homework Equations


d = V1(t) +1/2(a)(t^2)

That's the only one I can think of! Help!

The Attempt at a Solution


The only way I can do it is to plug in the givens into the formula, am I doing it right or is there something more?

-50=5(t)+1/2(-9.81)(t^2)
0=-4.90500(t^2)+5t+50
t=3.74s or t=-2.73s

I feel stupid, please help!
 
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It is right. Time needs to be positive because we need a result that is after we started the experiment. t=-2.73s is negative, what means it is before the beginning of the experiment so the only correct answer is t=3,74s
 
Looks OK to me. Which of those times do you think is the right one? (Only one makes physical sense for this problem.)
 
Karmalo said:
It is right. Time needs to be positive because we need a result that is after we started the experiment. t=-2.73s is negative, what means it is before the beginning of the experiment so the only correct answer is t=3,74s

Thanks for your input, could you see my concern below (as a reply to Doc Al), too?

Doc Al said:
Looks OK to me. Which of those times do you think is the right one? (Only one makes physical sense for this problem.)

The positive time of course. But my issue was that I don't know if I seem to have included the time during which it went upwards reached its max height and then went down. Or is that included in the equation because I set specific signs for directions? Please let me know if you need more explanation of my doubt.
 
elasticities said:
The positive time of course. But my issue was that I don't know if I seem to have included the time during which it went upwards reached its max height and then went down. Or is that included in the equation because I set specific signs for directions? Please let me know if you need more explanation of my doubt.
That equation takes everything into account. The initial rise to a max height, then the fall to the ground. (Just for fun, see if you can figure out how long it takes to get to the maximum height.)
 
Doc Al said:
That equation takes everything into account. The initial rise to a max height, then the fall to the ground. (Just for fun, see if you can figure out how long it takes to get to the maximum height.)

Thank you so much for your help! You have no idea how much I appreciate it! :)
 
elasticities said:

Homework Statement


If the rock is thrown from the top of the building with a velocity of 5m/s [Up].
And you know acceleration due to gravity is 9.81m/s^2 [Down].
And the height of the building is 50m.

Please help! I can't find the time for it to reach the bottom! I am letting up be positive!

Homework Equations


d = V1(t) +1/2(a)(t^2)

That's the only one I can think of! Help!

The Attempt at a Solution


The only way I can do it is to plug in the givens into the formula, am I doing it right or is there something more?

-50=5(t)+1/2(-9.81)(t^2)
0=-4.90500(t^2)+5t+50
t=3.74s or t=-2.73s

I feel stupid, please help!

Neat thing about this is, if you had thrown the rock straight up from the ground, 2.73 seconds later the rock would be 50 m above the ground moving at 5 m/s up. Then 3.74 seconds later from this, the rock would strike the ground a the same velocity it was thrown up at. And of course you could find out the velocity it hits the ground at.

So the math does have some meaning, but like Doc Al said, not in the context of the limits given in the problem.
 

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