Effect of PV on-grid (quality, voltage, stability)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of on-grid photovoltaic (PV) systems on quality, voltage, and stability within the electrical grid. Participants explore various aspects including the implications for grid stability, voltage loss, and the quality of the PV systems, as well as the challenges posed by distributed generation.

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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that on-grid systems may enhance stability compared to off-grid systems, as they utilize the grid as a backup, but raises concerns about potential stability issues when tied to a PV power plant.
  • Another participant highlights that voltage loss can occur from the grid to the home, particularly in the cables.
  • Quality concerns are raised regarding the wear on PV system components due to the intermittent nature of solar energy and the need for energy from the grid.
  • Corrosion of interconnections over time is mentioned as a critical factor affecting quality, with emphasis on the importance of cable termination.
  • A participant discusses the impact of current draw on system performance, indicating that high current demands from appliances can exceed the capacity of small PV installations.
  • One participant states that PV contributes a negligible portion to the overall generation capacity in the USA, suggesting that its impact on the bulk power grid is minimal, while local distribution may face challenges.
  • Concerns are raised about the design of protective relaying in local power distribution systems due to distributed generation complicating safety and reliability.
  • Another participant points out that excessive solar generation can lead to increased local grid voltage, potentially limiting the addition of more generating capacity in certain areas.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the effects of on-grid PV systems, with some agreeing on specific technical challenges while others present differing opinions on the overall impact on grid stability and voltage. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives on the implications of PV integration into the grid.

Contextual Notes

Participants note various limitations, including the dependence on local grid design and the specific characteristics of the PV systems in question. The discussion also highlights the complexity of interactions between distributed generation and local power distribution systems.

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What is the effect of on-grid PV systems, in terms of quality, voltage and stability? I'm not really sure how to answer this.

Stability -- If consumer is tied to a PV power plant, grid stability could potentially be an issue. However, generally speaking, on-grid systems use the grid like a battery back-up, so in some senses they are more stable than off-grid systems.

Voltage -- Can be lossed from grid to home. Voltage lost in cables.

Quality -- The constant need to potentially have energy coming from the grid to the home could wear out the components in the PV system. PV itself is intermittent / variable and depends on weather conditions.

I read something else about reactive power but the concept was a little difficult to understand.

Is there anything I'm missing in terms of the quality, stability and voltage effects of PV on-grid?
 
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Just a few notes;

I would add corrosion of the interconnections over time - quality of cable termination is critical.

Current draw is your main enemy in a system like this. Basically let's say your converter is 120Vac. It should provide this voltage at all times at a very stable value (very little ripple). You can turn on your TV and computer. Maybe a few lights and an alarm clock. Your overall current draw is already 3-4 Amps. Now that's not a big problem for the system. The problem is when you turn on the stove and the dryer. These can add 5-10 amps each on top and will easily exceed small PV installations. At this point, it would be better to farm multiple small installations into a common grid so the intermittent current draws can be normalized.

The battery bank and converter quality along with the type of system used (fixed or rotating) all have an overall impact on system efficiency.
 
PV is a tiny portion of the connected generation in the USA. 0.2% if my memory is correct. Something that small has a negligible effect on the bulk power grid, no matter what it does.

Local power distribution, say on your street, is a different matter. Distributed generation (DG) makes it more difficult to design the protective relaying required to keep the local power supply safe and reliable.

Your questions are all mixed up. You ask about the grid, but then about your own equipment.

Electrical circuits are not worn out by time varying voltages and currents.

Corrosion is not affected by voltages and currents, unless there is a galvanic current leaking to earth. Contaminants in the air are the principle cause of corrosion. I live on a boat in salt water. Salt in the air is a constant enemy of my electrical connections.
 
In some parts of the grid it might not be possible to add more generating capacity because it will increase the local grid voltage too much.

This can happen when too much solar is added to a local grid that wasn't designed for it.
 

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