Effect on rolling motion after an inelastic collision.

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The discussion revolves around the effects of an inelastic collision on the rolling motion of a sphere. Participants explore the dynamics of the sphere before and after the collision, focusing on the transition from sliding to pure rolling motion, and the implications of varying conditions such as the height of the wall and friction coefficients.

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  • One participant describes the initial conditions of a sphere rolling at a constant velocity and the expected changes in velocity and angular velocity after an inelastic collision with a wall.
  • Another participant suggests that the collision alters the angular velocity and introduces a torque due to the wall's force, proposing to consider zero friction with the wall to simplify the analysis.
  • A third participant discusses the relationship between linear and angular velocities, proposing equations to relate them and suggesting that friction will act against the sliding motion of the sphere.
  • A later reply introduces a scenario where the wall is shorter than the sphere, raising questions about the contact point and the effects of friction in this case.

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Participants express different views on the effects of the collision on angular velocity and the role of friction, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

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Participants do not fully resolve the implications of varying wall heights or the specific effects of friction on the sphere's motion, leaving these aspects open for further exploration.

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Readers interested in dynamics, particularly inelastic collisions and rolling motion, may find the discussion relevant to their understanding of these concepts.

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Hi,

I have a problem which I can't figure out.:confused:

Let us take a sphere which is rolling purely at a constant velocity vo.
Now, if the sphere were to collide inelastically with a wall, with coeff. of restitution = e.
Then what is the time after which the sphere starts pure rolling again?
Given coeff, friction = μ

I went about by considering that after the collision, the particle will have evo velocity, but the same angular velocity ω=vo/r.

Now, since the sphere is translating, the angular velocity is in the opp. direction. So the frictional force will cause a torque to change ω.

So, if the body was initially moving rightwards, with clockwise ω, it's new velocity will be leftwards, but ω will remain clockwise. So the frictional force must act towards right to apply a counter-clockwise torque.

After this, I couldn't figure out which way to go.:rolleyes:

Any help appreciated.!:approve:
 
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nerdvana101 said:
I went about by considering that after the collision, the particle will have evo velocity, but the same angular velocity ω=vo/r.
Usually the collision will change the angular velocity as well. If the ball rolls the force of the wall on the ball is not horizontal. It is slightly upwards generating a torque.

But can you assume zero friction with the wall to avoid that. Then the ball will slide on the ground until the friction makes it roll. Use the torque from friction and moment of inertia to find the angular acceleration. Keep in mind that the friction also reduces the velocity, while it changes the angular velocity.
 
So, taking the torque about the COM and then finding the angular acceleration, what happens to the linear velocity? I think the friction force will act in it's opposite direction and stop it from sliding.
so that a = f/m.

Then, I cud equate it as -

v-at = r(ω - αt)
and get the time?
 
thx, just worked it out. got the right answer.

Anyway, I was thinking that if the wall were shorter than the sphere itself? let's say that the wall has a height h, where h < r, i.e., the wall has a height less than that of the height of the center of the sphere. SO, only a corner of that wall will touch that sphere.
Let the friction of the wall also be high enough that it resists slipping of the sphere upon contact. Then what?
 

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