Effects of radiation on Electric Field

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The discussion centers on the effects of radiation, specifically x-rays, on the flow of electrons in an electric field and how this interaction may influence the resistance of a resistor. The scope includes theoretical considerations, potential applications, and the implications of radiation on electronic components.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that x-ray radiation, being high frequency, has little direct effect on low-frequency electronic circuits, but may cause indirect effects such as heating or electron removal.
  • Others argue that if the x-ray beam intensity is high, it could lead to increased resistance due to heating, with a noted deviation of around 2-3% for a 10°C increase in temperature.
  • A participant mentions that for AC circuits, the interaction with high-frequency radiation may not be observable unless measurement precision is very high.
  • Some contributions discuss the potential for controlling electron propagation using precisely generated waves, while also noting the limitations of radiation effects to localized regions.
  • There is a proposal to compute the heating of a resistor when exposed to radiation, contingent on the specifications of both the circuit and the radiation source.
  • Another participant elaborates on the mechanisms of heating, emphasizing secondary interactions of energized electrons and the potential for photodisintegration effects if photon energy exceeds nuclear binding energies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the effects of radiation on electronic components, with no consensus reached on the extent or nature of these effects. Some agree on the possibility of heating and interference, while others highlight the complexity and variability of the interactions involved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include dependence on specific beam characteristics, circuit configurations, and measurement precision. The discussion also touches on the need for detailed specifications to accurately estimate heating effects.

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Readers interested in the interactions between radiation and electronic components, as well as those exploring the implications of high-frequency radiation in circuit design, may find this discussion relevant.

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How does radiation (e.g. x-ray) affect the flow of electrons in an electric field? More specifically how does this affect for instance the resistance of a resistor.

Thanks in advance. :smile:
 
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x-ray radiation is high frequency and typical electronic circuits (such as would include a resistor) are low frequency, so there is little direct effect between the electric field in the x-ray beam and the the circuit's current. However, there may be indirect effects. For example, the x-ray could heat up a resistor so that it's resistance increases. Or the x-rays could remove electrons such as in the photoelectric effect. But I think such effects are small enough that you will not see them unless you are looking for them.

If the radiation is at comparable frequencies (kHz-GHz) to those used in AC circuits, then the radiation will induce additional currents in your circuit, known as signal interference. For instance, when you turn on a blender, it's motor generates radio waves that make an analog antenna TV (remember those) show a fuzzy picture. Unwanted interference can be minimized by electromagnetic shielding. If the induced current is desired, then you get into the complex world of antenna design.
 
It will depend on your beam characteristics. If your circuit is running DC and beam intensity is very high, if polarization of field radiation from resistor matches the polarization of your beam than some interference at the electrical level is possible. Also if intensity is high, that might cause increase in heat of the resistor thus it might operate outside of the linear region. From my experiences I know that a heat increase of ~10C results in a deviation of around %2~3 in resistance for off-the-shelf common resistors. SMD components have less tolerance than standard ones. Heating up too much will make it go outside it's tolerance region and it might end up as an unstable component. There are military grade version of almost each component that is designed to operate in extreme conditions.

On the other hand if you are running AC in your circuit first case I mentioned will not be observed. Because of the higher frequency of the beam, it will interact with the field oscillations from resistor in a way that you will probably not be able to observe the effects of this in electrical level. It depends on your measurement precision, you need to have very high sampling rates to see ripples in electrical scale because they will be very high in frequency. Heating up too much option is always valid no matter what the circuit is or even resistor is connected to a circuit or not.

Radiation can effect the flow of electrons but in a limited region. To make electrons propagate where you want them to be (in limits of the wire) can be achieved by precisely generated waves. If you were asking about controlling the position of a molecule or a bigger concept in size than an electron then optical tweezers could do what you want very precisely.

From relativistic model of electron radius is appoximated as ~2.8 x 10-15 which corresponds to 1.071x1021Hz. If you have an em source radiates at this frequency you can move an electron precisely in space-time, neglecting the wave-electron interactions at quantum scale.
 
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Thank you for your reply. Regarding additional heating of the component. Is it possible to compute it given that we know how much radiation is being emitted from the source? If so, how can this be done?
 
Yes it is possible. Assuming the system is isolated (only the resistor and beam) you can very precisely derive the characteristic curve of heat transfer between source and target.Heat increase is dependent on the beam intensity which is a function of amplitude of the electric field.

1 - What are the specs of the circuit ? (that resistor is connected to)
2 - What are the specs of the beam source ? (that radiates over the resistor)
3 - What is the distance between source and the resistor ?
 
It should be pretty straightforward to estimate the heating of irradiated materials.

The mechanisms of heating would mostly be secondary interactions of the energized electrons that the primary photons interacted with. Those electrons gain kinetic energy and deposit it into the material lattice, which you would see as heating on the macro scale of the device.

If you know roughly the material composition of the components and the energy of the photons in question then you can determine interaction mechanisms for your primary radiation, estimate how much of the transferred energy is deposited back into your components and then the corresponding temperature rise. Much of that information is likely tabulated in published tables.

If your primary photons have energy much greater than nuclear binding energies for your components then you would start seeing photodisintegration effects where protons and neutrons are ejected from nuclei. Neutron radiation has been shown to be damaging to many materials, and proton radiation has very localized energy deposition characteristics that can also damage electronics.
 

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