Efficient Conversion of 1 V peak AC to DC

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The discussion revolves around methods for efficiently converting a 1 V peak AC signal into DC, specifically for use in a small battery-powered sensor system. Participants explore various approaches, including rectification techniques and transformer use, while considering size and efficiency constraints.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that a simple bridge rectifier may not be efficient due to voltage drops across the diodes.
  • Another proposes using a step-up transformer with a full-wave rectifier on the secondary side.
  • A participant raises concerns about the physical size of components, indicating a preference for compact solutions.
  • Frequency of the AC signal is noted as approximately 75 Hz, with no need for isolation between primary and secondary in transformer setups.
  • Using Schottky diodes for a bridge rectifier is recommended for lower forward voltage drop, along with a Buck booster to increase DC voltage, though concerns about high-frequency noise are mentioned.
  • Another participant introduces a more complex method involving analog switches and MOSFETs to achieve rectification with potentially lower voltage drops compared to diodes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various methods and considerations for the conversion process, with no consensus on a single best approach. Multiple competing views and techniques are presented, reflecting differing priorities such as efficiency, size, and complexity.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not specify certain assumptions about component availability, circuit design constraints, or the specific requirements of the sensor system, which may influence the proposed solutions.

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Hey guys,

I am new here and had a question. I currently have a 1 V peak (2 Vpp) AC wave coming into my system and I want to find the most efficient way to convert it into DC. A simple bridge wouldn't work for me because too much of the voltage would be dropped across the diodes. The system is a small battery powered sensor and I am trying to use this 1 V input wave as a trickle charger. Any guidance or ideas?

Thanks
 
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Can you connect it to the primary of a step up transformer and use a full wave rectifier on the secondary?
 
I haven't thought about that, but as I said the system is a small battery powered one and I am trying to find some way of doing this in a small physical manner.
 
You haven't mentioned what frequency your AC is and if you don't need isolation between the primary and secondary, it may be possible to make a small auto-transformer by winding turns on a suitable core.
 
Sorry about that, the frequency is around 75 Hz and no I don't need any isolation between primary and secondary.
 
You may be able to wrap a substantial number of turns of enameled wire around a nail with a tap for the primary.
 
If you want this thing to be super tiny and cheap then you could use Schottky diodes for a bridge rectifier (forward voltage ~ 0.3) and then step up the DC voltage with a Buck booster to whatever level you need. One caveat, you said it was an instrument so, depending on how sensitive the instrument is, you may need to worry about the high frequency noise coming from the Buck booster . The efficiency wouldn't be too bad but certainly wouldn't be as good as the transformer set-up.

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Another possibility but much more difficult would be to sense the polarity of the AC and open and close analog switches in an arrangement like that of a full wave rectifier to achieve rectification. By using mosfets, a lower voltage drop could be achieved than by diodes. This approach might make sense if you are already using a microcontroller or even a comparator.
 

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