Efficient Solution for System of Laplace Transforms with Initial Values

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The problem involves solving a system of differential equations using Laplace transforms, specifically the equations \(\frac{dx}{dt}=x-2y\) and \(\frac{dy}{dt}=5x-y\) with initial conditions \(x(0)=0\) and \(y(0)=0\). The original poster expresses confusion about the approach to take, particularly in eliminating one of the variables.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply Laplace transforms to the system but is uncertain about the next steps after obtaining the transformed equations. They question whether they should eliminate a variable at this stage and express confusion about the process due to the nature of the examples in their text.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide feedback on the original poster's approach, with one noting that the resulting equations lead to a trivial solution. There is an acknowledgment of the original poster's efforts to understand the problem, and a suggestion to consider the implications of the initial conditions.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions missing a class on systems of Laplace transforms, which may contribute to their uncertainty in applying the method correctly. There is also a discussion about the nature of the solutions given the initial conditions.

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Solve using Laplace Transforms

[tex]\frac{dx}{dt}=x-2y[/tex]
[tex]\frac{dy}{dt}=5x-y[/tex]

Subject to x(0)=0 y(0)=0Okay. So I know that there are more efficient ways to solve this, but I missed the class in systems of Laplace Transforms and would like to get this resolved.

I guess my first question is what the first step is. Is it the same as any other kind of systems approach, that is, to find a multiplier that allows me to sum the two equations eliminating one of the variables?

I must assume this is the approach, but for some reason I am confused.
So I have:

[itex]x'-x+2y=0[/itex] (1)
[itex]y'+y-5x=0[/itex] (2)

I am looking in my text, I will come back to edit...

Okay. So all of the examples given only have one dependent variable, so bear with me.

Taking Laplace of each equation yields:

[itex]sX(s)-x(0)-X(s)+2Y(s)=0[/itex] (3)
[itex]sY(s)-y(0)+Y(s)-5X(s)=0[/itex] (4)

Applying initial values

[itex]sX(s)-X(s)+2Y(s)=0[/itex]
[itex]sY(s)+Y(s)-5X(s)=0[/itex]

I am assuming that this is the point where I eliminate? I also assume I should sort these first. Giving:
[itex]X(s)[s-1]+2Y(s)=0[/itex] (5)
[itex]Y(s)[s+1]-5X(s)=0[/itex] (6)

Multiplying
5*(5) and [s-1]*(6) yields

[itex]5X(s)[s-1]+10Y(s)=0[/itex] (7)
[itex]Y(s)[s+1][s-1]-5X(s)[s-1]=0[/itex] (8)

Adding (7) + (8) yields

[itex]10Y(s)+Y(s)(s+1)(s-1)=0[/itex] (9)
 
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Can someone tell me if I am on the right path? I cannot see the next move. If I factor out Y(s) and divide it off, I am going to get Y(s)=0 !

Did I approach this right?
 
Yes, you're going to get Y(s)=0. This problem is a bit silly, as it only has the zero solution. Even if you don't understand Laplace transforms, you can still understand why this is the case. Let us separate the coupled differential equations.

Differentiate the first equation to get:

[tex]\frac{d^2x}{dt^2}=\frac{dx}{dt}-2\frac{dy}{dt}[/tex]

Now use the original equations to sub in for [itex]\frac{dx}{dt}[/itex] and [itex]\frac{dy}{dt}[/itex]. You obtain the following.

[tex]\frac{d^2x}{dt^2}+9x=0[/tex].

Furthermore, [itex]x(0)=y(0)=0[/itex] implies that [itex]\frac{dx(0)}{dt}=0[/itex] as well. So you have a sourceless 2nd order DE with zero initial conditions.

The only solution is the zero solution.
 
Hey now! I see what you are saying. Thanks Tom. I should have gone with my gut!
 

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