Eigenvalue/Eigenvector problem. Check my solution please.

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The discussion revolves around an eigenvalue and eigenvector problem involving an n x n matrix A with the property that A² = A. Participants are exploring the implications of this property on the eigenvalues and diagonalizability of the matrix.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • The original poster attempts to prove that if λ is an eigenvalue of A, then λ must be 0 or 1, and they seek verification of their reasoning. They express uncertainty regarding the diagonalizability of A, questioning whether having only two distinct eigenvalues implies it cannot be diagonalizable.
  • Some participants provide clarifications about the conditions for diagonalizability, emphasizing the importance of independent eigenvectors rather than just the number of distinct eigenvalues.
  • Others suggest exploring Jordan Normal Form as a way to understand the diagonalizability of A and raise questions about its structure in relation to the properties of A.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and clarifications regarding the relationship between eigenvalues, eigenvectors, and diagonalizability. There is a productive exchange of ideas, with some participants questioning assumptions and others offering guidance on relevant concepts like Jordan Normal Form.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original poster has submitted their homework but continues to engage in the discussion out of curiosity. There is mention of the original poster's unfamiliarity with Jordan Normal Form, indicating a potential gap in their understanding of the topic.

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Homework Statement


Suppose A is an n x n matrix with the property that A2=A
a. Show that if λ is an eigenvalue of A, then λ=0 or λ=1
b. Prove that A is diagonalizable.

Homework Equations


Av=λv (v : eigenvector)


The Attempt at a Solution



solution for a.
A2v=A(Av)=A(λv)=λ(Av)=λλv. also, Av=λv, therefore, λ2v=λv
=> (λ2-λ)v=0. So, λ=0 or λ=1.


I want you to check if this sounds right. If you see any errors, let me know. Now I'm working on the b part, but I am pretty much stuck. I will post up when I find something. Thanks in advance
 
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Looks good so far!
 
Thanks for checking.

I've been trying the second part, but have not find any satisfying answers.
from the question, it looks like A is diagonalizable.

But A is n-dimensional, but has only 2 distinct eigenvalues. then, A is not diagonaliable. am I right?
 
No, that's not true. The number of eigenvalues is irrelevant. What is relevant is the number of (independent) eigenvectors.

A linear transformation, A, from V to itself, is "diagonalizable" if and only if there exist a basis for V consisting of eigenvectors of A. For an n by n matrix, that means if and only if there exist n independent eigenvectors.

I don't know whether you can use this or not but if A is not diagonalizable, it can be put in Jordan Normal Form- there exist a part of the matrix of the form
\begin{array}{cc} a & 1 \\ 0 & a\end{array}
where a is either 0 or 1 and they are on the diagonal.

Show that A^2 cannot have that form.

You should be able to show that the corresponding place on A^2 will be
\begin{array}{cc} a^2 & 2a \\ 0 & a^2\end{array}
contradicting A^2= A.
 
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Thanks HallsofIvy.

I've already submited the homework, but I'm just curious now.

the matrix you showed above is 2 x 2.

what will be Jordan Normal Form in n x n matrix?

upper triangle with 1s?
 
foxofdesert said:
Thanks HallsofIvy.

I've already submited the homework, but I'm just curious now.

the matrix you showed above is 2 x 2.

what will be Jordan Normal Form in n x n matrix?

upper triangle with 1s?

If J is the Jordan form then A = P^(-1)JP, and J = PAP^(-1). Thus J^2 = PAP^(-1)PAP(-1) = PA^2P^(-1) = PAP^(-1) [because A^2=A], so J^2 = J. The only type of Jordan form in which this can happen is the diagonal one.

RGV
 
foxofdesert said:
But A is n-dimensional, but has only 2 distinct eigenvalues. then, A is not diagonaliable. am I right?
As HallsofIvy said, this is not true. For example, the matrix
\begin{pmatrix} 1 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 1 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 2 \end{pmatrix}has only two distinct eigenvalues, but you can find three independent eigenvectors, e.g. (1,0,0), (0,1,0), and (0,0,1). And obviously, it's diagonalizable because it's already diagonal.

Jordan normal form looks like, for example,
\begin{pmatrix} \lambda_1 & 1 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & \lambda_1 & 1 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & \lambda_1 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 & \lambda_2 \end{pmatrix}In each block corresponding to an eigenvalue, you have 1s just above the diagonal.
 
Thank you for your replies.

I have never studied the jordan normal form (at least not in my class.)

But it looks like it has some role in eigenvalue/vector subject.

Time to dig in!
 

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