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The discussion centers on the Einstein-Hilbert action, represented as I = ∫_{V} dV (-g)^{1/2}R or I = ∫_{V} dV ℒ(g_{ab}, Γ_{kl}^{i}). Participants explore the possibility of deriving Einstein's equations by independently varying the metric g_{ab} and the Christoffel symbols Γ_{kl}^{i}. This approach is validated through the Palatini formulation of General Relativity (GR), which, while yielding the same results as the metric approach for the standard Einstein-Hilbert action, diverges when generalized to include additional terms, such as in f(R) gravity models.

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if we have the Einstein Hilbert action

[tex]I= \int_{V} dV (-g)^{1/2}R[/tex] or [tex]I= \int_{V} dV \mathcal L (g_{ab}, \Gamma_{kl}^{i}[/tex]

then my question is if we can obtain Einstein equations by varying the metric and Christofell symbols independently i mean you get Einstein Field equations by

[tex]\frac{\delta I}{\delta g_{ab} =0[/tex] [tex]\frac{\delta I}{\delta \Gamma_{kl}^{i} =0[/tex]

i mean , you consider the metric g_{ab} and [tex]\Gamma_{kl}^{i}[/tex] as independent variables for your theory.
 
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Klaus_Hoffmann said:
if we have the Einstein Hilbert action

[tex]I= \int_{V} dV (-g)^{1/2}R[/tex] or [tex]I= \int_{V} dV \mathcal L (g_{ab}, \Gamma_{kl}^{i}[/tex]

then my question is if we can obtain Einstein equations by varying the metric and Christofell symbols independently i mean you get Einstein Field equations by

[tex]\frac{\delta I}{\delta g_{ab} =0[/tex] [tex]\frac{\delta I}{\delta \Gamma_{kl}^{i} =0[/tex]

i mean , you consider the metric g_{ab} and [tex]\Gamma_{kl}^{i}[/tex] as independent variables for your theory.

Yes, this is done in the so-called Palatini fromulation of GR. Google it to find more information. (if the action is simply the EH action, the Palatini formulation gives the same result as the usual metric approach. If the action is generalized to included other terms (liek a 1/R term as is done in some modedl of the so-called f(R) gravity, the Palatini formulation gives a different result than th emetric formulation.)

Patrick
 
Yes, if you vary the metric+connection EH action with respect to the connection, you find the algebraic equation: connection=levi-civita connection. Thus you can insert these equations of motion inside the action, recovering the metric-only EH action, and the two are classically equivalent.
 

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