Elastic Collision and speed of a ball

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In a perfectly elastic collision involving a 120 g ball moving at 4.5 m/s and a 420 g ball at 1.2 m/s, the conservation of momentum and kinetic energy principles apply. The initial calculations for the final velocity of the 420 g ball were incorrect, leading to confusion. The correct approach to find the final velocities involves using the derived formulas for elastic collisions, which account for both momentum and relative velocity. The participant successfully calculated the final velocity of the 120 g ball as 0.63 m/s but struggled with the subsequent calculations for the 420 g ball. Clarification on the correct application of equations for elastic collisions is essential for resolving the problem.
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Homework Statement



A 120 g ball moving to the right at 4.5 m/s catches up and collides with a 420 g ball that is moving to the right at 1.2 m/s.

If the collision is perfectly elastic, what is the speed of the 420 g ball after the collision?

Homework Equations



m_1v_{1i}+}m_2v_{2i} = m_1v_{1f}+m_2v_{2f}

The Attempt at a Solution



I manipulated the formula a little bit to solve for V2_f and came up with this:
(m_1v_{1i}+}m_2v_{2i} - m_1v_{1f}) / m_2

then I plugged in my numbers:
(.12*4.5 + .42*1.2 - .12*.63) / .42

simplified to this:
(.54 + .504 - .0756) / .42

and got 2.3057. Mastering physics said that is wrong however and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Is the conservation of momentum the correct equation for this problem? I found the velocity of the 120 gram ball fine, which was .63 m/s, but am stuck on this one. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Hi Atlos, welcome to PF.
How did you get v1f = 0.63 m/s?
 
I came to find v1f by using the following equation:

[(m_1-m_2) / (m_1+m_2) ]v_{1i} + [2m_2 / (m_1+m_2]v_{2i}
 
A useful fact for straight line elastic collision is that

v_2b - v_1b = - (v_2a - v_1a)

v_1a = velocity of m1 before collision
v_1b = velocity of m1 after collision etc.

Relative velocity before the collision is the same as after, just opposite in sign.
 
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