Elastic collision with no info on object 1

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves an elastic collision between two carts, where one cart (cart1) is initially at rest and the other cart (cart2) has a known mass and initial velocity. The goal is to determine the mass of cart1 and its velocity after the collision.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using conservation laws, specifically conservation of momentum and energy, to find the unknown mass and velocity. There is a question about the order of substituting equations and how to isolate variables.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the relationship between momentum and energy conservation in the context of the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the substitution of variables in the equations, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes a lack of information regarding the initial velocity and mass of cart1, which complicates the problem-solving process.

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Homework Statement



Cart1, with mass m, is initially at rest and is struck by cart2, which has a mass of 337 kg and initial speed of 2.07 m/s. The collision is elastic and after the collision cart2 continues to move in its original direction at 0.900 m/s.


Find m, the mass of cart1.
Find the velocity of cart1 after the collision.


The Attempt at a Solution



I tried using standard momentum equations and isolating for m1 but I can't seeing as I don't have u1 or m1. Once I find the mass, the second part of the question should be straightforward.


Thankyou for your help!
 
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Here you have to use the law of conservation of energy along with the conservation of linear momentum.
 
So i would insert one into the other to solve for the unknown?
 
Yes.
 
Does it matter which equation gets subbed into which?
 
m1v1 + m2v2 = m1v1' + m2v2".
In the problem v1 = 0. Substitute the known values, find v1' in terms of m1.
Put it in the energy equation to find m1.
 

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