Elastic/completely inelastic collision

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In the discussion about elastic and completely inelastic collisions, the problem involves a 230 g particle colliding with a stationary 400 g particle. For the elastic collision, the impulse on particle 1 was calculated using the final velocity equation, but the resulting change in momentum was found to be incorrect. In the case of a completely inelastic collision, the challenge arises from having two unknowns (final velocities of both particles) with only one equation available, complicating the solution. It is noted that if the particles stick together, they will share a common final velocity, which can help simplify the calculations. The discussion emphasizes the need for a systematic approach to resolve the equations for both types of collisions.
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Homework Statement


Particle 1 of mass 230 g and speed 2.80 m/s undergoes a one-dimensional collision with stationary particle 2 of mass 400 g.


Homework Equations


What is the magnitude of the impulse on particle 1 if the collision is elastic?
What is the magnitude of the impulse on particle 1 if the collision is completely inelastic?

The Attempt at a Solution



For the 1st Question, i found final velocity for particle 1, so that I can subtract the given initial velocity for particle 1 to get the impulse. i used this equation: v'1 = v1 (m1 - m2) / (m1 + m2), noting that initial velocity for particle 2 is zero ( as given ) and then I plugged in numbers and got -.755555
Then I went back to equation for change in momentum: m1v'1 - m1v1 and got -817.7778 however this is wrong.


for the 2nd Question
I used: m1v1 + m2v2 = m1v'1 + m2v'2 , noting that m2v2 is zero ( as given v2 is zero ) and the m1v'1 = m2v'2 because they has to move together since they stick together. but Now i have two unknowns ( v'1 and v'2 ) and only 1 equation. I don't know how to solve it?

m1: mass for particle 1
m2: mass for particle 2
v1: initial velocity for particle 1
v2: initial velocity for particle 2
v'1: final velocity for particle 1
v'2: final velocity for particle 2

Thank you.
 
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R.H.2010 said:
for the 2nd Question
I used: m1v1 + m2v2 = m1v'1 + m2v'2 , noting that m2v2 is zero ( as given v2 is zero ) and the m1v'1 = m2v'2 because they has to move together since they stick together. but Now i have two unknowns ( v'1 and v'2 ) and only 1 equation. I don't know how to solve it?

If they stick together, they will have a common final velocity.
 
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