Elastic potential energy (spring) problem

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving elastic potential energy in a spring system. The scenario includes a 0.200 kg object attached to a spring with a spring constant of 77.0 N/m, which is compressed by a force of 10.0 N. Participants explore various aspects of the problem, including the compression distance, work done on the spring, maximum speed during harmonic motion, and the spring's position at a specific velocity.

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  • Participants discuss the calculations for the spring's compression and the work done, with some expressing uncertainty about the energy conservation approach in later parts of the problem. There is a focus on the relationship between potential energy and kinetic energy, particularly in the context of maximum speed and spring position.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the correct approach to energy conservation, while others question the assumptions made in the calculations. There is an acknowledgment of potential errors in reasoning, particularly regarding the conditions for maximum speed and energy distribution.

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Participants are navigating through the implications of energy conservation in the context of the problem, with some expressing confusion about the correct application of formulas and the relationships between different forms of energy.

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Homework Statement


A 0.200 kg object is attached to a horizontal spring with a spring constant of 77.0 N/m. The other end of the spring is attached to a wall in such a way that it rests on a frictionless horizontal surface. A 10.0 N force is exerted on the spring, causing it to compress

a) How far will the spring be compressed?
b) how much work is done on the spring to compress it?
c) Once the force on the spring is released, the spring and object are set into harmonic motion. What will the maximum speed of the object be? Explain where this speed will occur. (no friction and mass of spring is negligible)
d) What will spring's position be when v=1m/s?

Homework Equations


Ee=1/2kx^2

The Attempt at a Solution


a)
f=kx
x=f/k
x=0.13m
b)
Ee=1/2kx^2
=1/2(77)(0.13)^2
=0.649J
c)
1/2mv^2=1/2kx^2
1/2(0.2)v^2 = 0.649
v=2.54m/s
d)
1/2mv^2 = 1/2kx^2
0.1=1/2(77)x^2
2(0.1)/77=x^2
0.051m=x

Im not sure if for the last 2 questions I should have it as:

0.649=Epfinal+Ekfinal
0.649=1/2kx^2+1/2mv^2

Can someone please help me? Thank you very much
 
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newguy_13 said:
Im not sure if for the last 2 questions I should have it as:

0.649=Epfinal+Ekfinal
0.649=1/2kx^2+1/2mv^2
That's the correct approach: energy is conserved. Your mistake in part d was setting the KE (when v=1m/s) equal to the total energy.

In part c you got lucky since when the KE is max the PE is zero. (Where does that happen?)
 
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newguy_13 said:

Homework Statement


A 0.200 kg object is attached to a horizontal spring with a spring constant of 77.0 N/m. The other end of the spring is attached to a wall in such a way that it rests on a frictionless horizontal surface. A 10.0 N force is exerted on the spring, causing it to compress

a) How far will the spring be compressed?
b) how much work is done on the spring to compress it?
c) Once the force on the spring is released, the spring and object are set into harmonic motion. What will the maximum speed of the object be? Explain where this speed will occur. (no friction and mass of spring is negligible)
d) What will spring's position be when v=1m/s?

Homework Equations


Ee=1/2kx^2

The Attempt at a Solution


a)
f=kx
x=f/k
x=0.13m
b)
Ee=1/2kx^2
=1/2(77)(0.13)^2
=0.649J
c)
1/2mv^2=1/2kx^2
1/2(0.2)v^2 = 0.649
v=2.54m/s
d)
1/2mv^2 = 1/2kx^2
0.1=1/2(77)x^2
2(0.1)/77=x^2
0.051m=x

Im not sure if for the last 2 questions I should have it as:

0.649=Epfinal+Ekfinal
0.649=1/2kx^2+1/2mv^2

Can someone please help me? Thank you very much
Hello @newguy_13,

Welcome to PF! :welcome:

a) through c) look good to me with the possible exceptions of minor rounding errors.

Don't forget that c) requires you to specify where the maximum speed occurs. (You forgot to specify the location.)

For d), use your second approach. Your first approach is not correct.

It turns out that you already used your second approach when doing part c), even if you didn't realize it. (At the point of maximum speed, what is the system's potential energy? :wink:)
 
Thanks so much for the help guys!
 

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