Electric Dipole Moment: Mechanics Counterpart Explained

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The electric dipole moment is defined as \(\mu = -e x\), where \(e\) represents the charge of the electron and \(x\) is the displacement. In mechanics, the moment is calculated as the force crossed with the position vector, leading to the expression \(\mu = Fx = -eE x\). However, this differs from the electric dipole moment because the latter is specifically a moment of charge, not force. The discussion clarifies that the dipole moment utilizes a geometric interpretation rather than a cross product, similar to moments of inertia and area.

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  • Understanding of electric dipole moment and its formula
  • Basic mechanics principles, specifically moments and forces
  • Familiarity with the concept of cross products in physics
  • Knowledge of geometric interpretations of physical quantities
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Students and professionals in physics, particularly those studying electromagnetism and mechanics, will benefit from this discussion. It is also relevant for educators seeking to clarify the differences between mechanical moments and electric dipole moments.

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I know the definition of the electric dipole moment is given by [tex]\mu = -e x[/tex], where e is the charge of electron and x is the displacement. I am thinking a mechanics counterpart of the dipole moment. We note that in mechanics, the moment is defined as the force cross the position vector. Consider 1D problem, the force of electric field is given by

[tex]F = -e E[/tex]
where E is the electric field. So the moment should be

[tex]\mu = Fx = -eE x[/tex]

but why this is different from the one in text ([tex]\mu=-ex[/tex]) ? What's wrong in my reasoning?
 
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Hi KFC! :smile:

Because a moment is of something … in the example you gave, it's the moment of a force, so obviously the force is part of it.

Electric dipole moment, however, is a moment of charge … force doesn't come into it. :smile:

(As for the cross product , I think dipole moment uses the geometric meaning of moment, without cross product, as in moment of inertia, moment of area, etc.

For the first moment, you multiply by one coordinate: Mi = (something) times xi

For the second moment (like an electric quadrupole moment), you multiply by two coordinates: Mij = (something) times xixj

and so on.)
 

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