Electric field due to dipole in polar coordinates

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The discussion revolves around the electric field generated by a dipole in polar coordinates, specifically focusing on the components of the electric field and their derivation from the electric potential. Participants explore the mathematical expressions for the radial and angular components of the electric field.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the expressions for the electric field components, noting the radial component as $$E_r=-\frac{\partial V}{\partial r}$$ and the angular component as $$E_{\theta}=-\frac{1}{r}\frac{\partial V}{\partial \theta}$$, questioning the derivation of the latter.
  • Another participant explains that the electric field is the negative gradient of the potential and identifies the equations as components of the gradient in spherical coordinates.
  • A participant expresses confusion regarding the presence of the $$1/r$$ term in the angular component and questions their understanding of spherical coordinates.
  • Another participant clarifies that the components of the gradient indicate how much a quantity changes per unit length in a given direction, explaining the relationship between changes in the radial and angular coordinates and their respective components.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the understanding of the $$E_{\theta}$$ component, as some express confusion while others provide explanations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the clarity of the derivation and implications of the equations.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of missing assumptions regarding the understanding of spherical coordinates and the implications of the $$1/r$$ term in the angular component, which are not fully addressed in the discussion.

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For a dipole, if there is point subtending an angle ##\theta## at the centre of dipole and at a distance ##r## from centre of dipole, then the electric field at that point can be broken into 2 components. One along the line joining the point and centre of dipole and point given by $$E_r=-\frac{\partial V}{\partial r}$$ and the other component along the perpendicular to that line as $$E_{\theta}=-\frac{1}{r}\frac{\partial V}{\partial \theta} $$
This is given in my book. I understood E_r. But how did they get ##E_\theta## ?
here ##V=\frac{pcos\theta}{4\pi\epsilon_0r^2}## ,r>>a.
 
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The electric field is minus the gradient of the potential. The equations you have written down are simply the expressions for the components of the gradient in spherical coordinates (apart from the ##\varphi## component that will be zero in this case).
 
Why is there a 1/r term in E along theta? Is sphericcal coordinates beyaond my level?
 
The components of the gradient essentially tell you how much something changes per length in that direction. If you change the radial coordinate by dr, you move a distance dr. Therefore, the radial component is ##-\partial V/\partial r##. If you change the coordinate ##\theta## by ##d\theta##, then you move a distance ##r\,d\theta## and the ##\theta## component is therefore ##-(1/r) \partial V/\partial\theta##.
 
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