Electric field in an arbitrary number of dimensions

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The discussion revolves around the application of Gauss's law to determine the electric field in 1+1 dimensional spacetime, as well as the generalization of magnetic fields in arbitrary dimensions. Participants explore the implications of dimensionality on electric and magnetic fields, including the challenges of formulating equations in different dimensional contexts.

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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to apply Gauss's law in 1+1 dimensions, questioning how to account for the area element at the two endpoints of a Gaussian surface.
  • Another participant suggests that the integral should sum over the two endpoints.
  • A participant expresses difficulty in quantifying the infinitesimal area of the two points.
  • There is a suggestion to simply add the electric field strengths, noting that the equation will have different dimensions.
  • Clarification is made that the different dimensions refer to the units of the equation rather than the electric field itself.
  • A shift in focus occurs to the magnetic field in arbitrary dimensions, with a participant proposing a generalization of the divergence of the magnetic field.
  • Another participant questions how the magnetic field is generated, referencing Faraday's Law and suggesting that the epsilon symbol's indices may need to change with dimensionality.
  • One participant states that there is no obvious generalization of Faraday's Law to N dimensions.
  • A participant discusses the relationship between electric and magnetic fields in higher dimensions, noting the number of independent components for each field in n+1 spacetime.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the generalization of electric and magnetic fields to higher dimensions, with some proposing potential frameworks while others highlight challenges and uncertainties. There is no consensus on the generalization of Faraday's Law or the dimensional implications of the equations involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in formulating equations in different dimensions, particularly regarding the units and dimensionality of the electric and magnetic fields. The discussion remains open-ended with unresolved mathematical steps and assumptions.

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I am looking to use Gauss's law to find the electric field in ##1+1## dimensional spacetime:

##\int \vec{E}\cdot d\vec{A}=\frac{Q}{\epsilon_{0}}##

Now, for a point charge in ##1+1## dimensional spacetime, the Gaussian surface is the two endpoints (a distance ##r## away from the point charge) along which the electric field points outwards. How do I account for ##d\vec{A}## of the two endpoints?
 
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The integral gets a sum over the two endpoints.
 
I know that, but I am finding it difficult to form a quantitative value for the infinitesimal area of the two points.
 
Just add the two electric field strengths? Your field will have different dimensions anyway, so it fits.
 
I don't exactly understand what you mean when you say that the field will have different dimensions.
 
Sorry, I didn't mean the field itself, I meant the equation. To work, ##\epsilon_0## needs different units, which means the whole equation has different units.
 
Thanks!
 
The more interesting question is the magnetic field in an arbitrary number of dimensions...
 
Well, ##\nabla\cdot{\vec{B}}=0## generalises to ##\partial_{\mu}B^{\mu}=0##, I suppose, which means that ##B## has inverse dimensions of the length in any spacetime.

Am I right?
 
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But how is it generated? ;)
 
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It's generated by a changing electric field, which comes from Faraday's Law.

##\epsilon_{ijk}\partial_{i}E_{i}=-\partial_{t}B_{i}## is Faraday's law in 3 dimensions.

I guess the epsilon symbol ought to have more (or less) spatial indices as the number of spatial dimensions increases (or decreases)?
 
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There is no obvious generalization of this law to N dimensions.
 
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Is this why the magnetic field cannot be generalised to more than 3 dimensions?
 
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Crudely...

The electric field is "time-space part" of the [antisymmetric] field tensor, orthogonal to the observer's 4-velocity. In (n+1)-spacetime, it has n independent components. In 4+1, Ex, Ey, Ez, Ew.

The magnetic field is the remaining part... also orthogonal to the observer's 4-velocity. In (n+1)-spacetime, it has n(n-1)/2 independent components... Counting the number of strictly lower triangular space-space components. In 4+1, Bxy, Byz, Bzx, Bxw, Byw, Bzw (up to signs). The epsilon symbol or its equivalent will appear.

For n=3, the electric and magnetic field each have 3 components.
 

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