Electric Field inside uniformly charged dielectric sphere

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The discussion revolves around finding the electric field inside a uniformly charged dielectric sphere, specifically addressing the relationship between the electric field and the radius of the sphere as described by Gauss' Law. Participants are examining the implications of charge distribution and the mathematical expressions involved.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are exploring the correct expression for the electric field inside the sphere and questioning the dependence of the field on the radius. There is a discussion about the notation used in the problem and its implications for understanding the electric field's behavior.

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Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the expressions derived from Gauss' Law, while others are seeking assurance about their interpretations of the problem. There appears to be a productive exchange of ideas, though no consensus has been reached on the final expression.

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There is mention of differing interpretations of variables and notation, which may affect the understanding of the problem. Participants are also considering the dimensional consistency of the expressions presented.

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Either Coulomb's Law or Gauss' Law and r>R, I get [tex]\textbf{E}=k\frac{Q}{r^{2}}\textbf{r}[/tex]. Q is the total charge. If R is the radius of the sphere, shouldn't the field at a point a<R simply be [tex]k\frac{Qa}{R^{3}}[/tex]? Inother words, the field is proportional to the enclosed charge, and the enclosed charge is proportional to the ratio of the radii cubed? Griffiths' answer is [tex]k\frac{Q}{R^{3}}\textbf{r}[/tex], i.e., there is no dependence on a. And it appears to be dimensionally inconsistent without a.

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What is the statement of the problem?
 
Given a sphere of radius R with a uniform volumetric charge density [tex]\rho[/tex], find an expression for the electric field at an arbitrary point inside the sphere.
 
What you call a, Griffiths calls r.
 
Yes, of course. I'm not working the Griffiths problem, but the nature of the problem is exactly the same. Whether you call it a or r, I believe it should appear in the numerator in any case. If it doesn't, it would say that the field is independent of the enclosed charge, which violates Gauss' Law (and, as I mentioned, is dimensionally inconsistent).
 
Is there a question here? The expression

[tex]E =k\frac{Q r}{R^{3}}[/tex]

as derived from Gauss's Law is the correct answer to the statement of the problem that you have provided. It is a dimensionally correct expression.
 
Thank you, that is what I was looking for. Griffiths' solution manual, and several other sources which might have been taken from there, give the answer as E=k[tex]\frac{Q}{R^{3}}\textbf{r}[/tex] (note there is no r in the numerator) and I just wanted some assurance that I hadn't made some fundamental mistake in what should be a pretty basic problem. Thanks again.
 
Old Guy said:
Thank you, that is what I was looking for. Griffiths' solution manual, and several other sources which might have been taken from there, give the answer as E=k[tex]\frac{Q}{R^{3}}\textbf{r}[/tex] (note there is no r in the numerator) and I just wanted some assurance that I hadn't made some fundamental mistake in what should be a pretty basic problem. Thanks again.

You don't seem to understand the notation Griffiths is using...[itex]\textbf{r}\equiv r \mathbf{\hat{r}}[/itex] is a vector, with magnitude [itex]r[/itex] and pointing radially outwards.
 
Doh! How embarrassing! You are right, of course, I can see it now. Thank you.
 

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