Electric Field of a Non-Uniformly Charged Sphere | Homework Help

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field of a non-uniformly charged sphere with charge density ρ = Ar². Participants emphasize the use of Gauss's law due to the spherically symmetrical nature of the charge distribution. The conversation highlights the need for a proper setup of the integral to find the total charge Q, which is essential for determining the electric field both inside and outside the sphere. There is a focus on clarifying the variables used in the equations and correcting misunderstandings about the integral setup. The participants encourage each other to make progress by correctly applying the principles of electrostatics.
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Homework Statement


A solid isolated sphere with radius R has a non uniform charge which is given by ρ= Ar²,
with A a constant and r<R measured from the centre of the sphere

Homework Equations


(a) Show that the electric field outside the sphere is equal to E = (AR5)/(5ε0r²)
(b) Show that the electric field inside the sphere is equal to E = (AR3)/5ε0)

The Attempt at a Solution


No attempt, I am completely clueless about what to do here.
Pardon my english, not a native speaker.
 
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Hello Dg, :welcome:

Your english is just fine and certainly good enough to read the guidelines . There you will find that we can't help unless you make an effort.

As a welcoming gesture: did you notice the charge density is spherically symmetrical :rolleyes: ? And does that remind you of a useful theorem named after a long-dead german genius :wink: ?
 
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Hello Dg, :welcome:

Your english is just fine and certainly good enough to read the guidelines . There you will find that we can't help unless you make an effort.

As a welcoming gesture: did you notice the charge density is spherically symmetrical :rolleyes: ? And does that remind you of a useful theorem named after a long-dead german genius :wink: ?

Yes i know it's somthing to do with Gausses law, Φ = ∫ EdA which i can then change into Q = ρ EDV
I can fill in ρ as the Q/ Volume of sphere and dV for a surface area. But than i am stuck with an integral i do not know how to solve.
 
Write down the complete expression for that integral (counts as attempt at solution !)
 
Well the full expression then would be Q = ∫r0 (q/πr4)r(4πr²dr)

My apologies, i do not know how to put a combination of sub and super script on an integral, the 0 is supposed to be at the bottom.
 
yeah, the ordinary fonts aren't very good at that. To do it right you need ##LaTeX##
I interpret your formula as $$ Q = \int_0^R {q\over 4\pi r} r \; 4\pi r^2 \,dr $$ correct me if I am wrong (i.e. for example: upper limit R not r)

Can you explain what your Q stands for and how you set it up to look like this ? What is lower case q ?

And we are talking about part (a) with ##r > R##, right ?

With Gauss' law in this spherically symmetric case, you can write ## E = \displaystyle {Q\over 4\pi\varepsilon_0 \; r^2}\ ## with ##Q## the total charge; agree ?Also: re excercise shrewdness :wink: : if you see a 5th power of R divided by 5 in the answer desired, doesn't that ring a bell about a possible integrand ?
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Yes about part (a).

the lower case q should be uppercase, my mistake. The Q stands for the charge of the whole sphere.

And yes i agree with that part, But i don't think i can fill in Q by what i have managed to get to find E or can i?

Also, i suppose it doesn't ring a bell for me as i have no idea how that could lead me to a possible integrand.

Oh and btw, thank you very much for helping me!
 
You are welcome.

If your q is actually Q then you have a circular reference in excel language :biggrin: : the variable is both on the left and on the right side of the equation

The expression to get Q when given ## \ \rho = Ar^2\ ## is what we are still struggling with, right ?

If, in a small volume ##dV\, ## the charge density is ##\rho, \ ## then the charge in that small volume is ##\rho dV##.

For a larger volume ##V## with a charge density ##\rho(\vec r)## (depending on position), the total charge is then ##Q=\int_V \rho(\vec r) \, dV##.

Can you now write the correct version of your integral in #5 ? You have all the ingredients!
 
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