Electric field & Parallel plate Capacitor

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The discussion revolves around the electric field changes in a nerve cell membrane, modeled as a parallel-plate capacitor. The original poster seeks to determine the magnitude of the change in charge density resulting from the variation in electric field strength.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants inquire about the typical dimensions and thickness of nerve cell membranes, as well as the relevant formulas for capacitance in the context of parallel-plate capacitors. There is a focus on understanding the relationship between electric field changes and charge density.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided specific values related to the problem, such as the thickness of the membrane and surface charge density. There is ongoing exploration of the necessary formulas and parameters needed to approach the problem, but no consensus or resolution has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are discussing the assumptions related to the cell membrane's properties, including the permittivity and dimensions, which are critical for calculating capacitance and charge density changes.

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Question When a nerve impulse propagates along a nerve cell, the electric field within the cell membrane changes from 7.0 x 10^5 N/C (pointing in one direction) to 3.0 x 10^5 N/C (pointing in the other direction). By approximating the cell membrane as a parallel-plate capicator, find the magnitude of the change in charge density on the walls of the membrane
 
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Has anyone ANY ideas?
 
What are the typical dimensions of such a cell? What is the typical thickness of the membrane? Do you know the formula for the capacitance of a parallel plate capacitor in terms of C, epsilon, Area and separation Distance? (ignoring fringe capacitance effects)
 
Oh sorry, the thickness is 0.12 micrometres
and the parallel plate capacitor has a surface charge density of 5.9×10^-6 C/m2
 
berkeman said:
Do you know the formula for the capacitance of a parallel plate capacitor in terms of C, epsilon, Area and separation Distance? (ignoring fringe capacitance effects)
You still need to address this part...
 
No I don't. What is it?
 
sci0x said:
No I don't. What is it?
C = epsilon * A / d

epsilon = permittivity
A = area of one parallel plate
d = separation of the parallel plates.

So you can take the typical dimensions for the cell membrane configuration, and calculate the capacitance (you'll need to approximate the epsilon of the cell membrane -- I have no idea what it is), and that will give you the equivalent capacitance. Given the change in electric field, you can calculate what charge change it takes to make that happen. That and the area will give you the charge densities...
 

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