Electric Field Produced by an Infinite Sheet.

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The discussion revolves around the electric field produced by an infinite sheet of charge, specifically addressing the differing factors in the equations used to describe the electric field. Participants explore the implications of charge distribution and geometry in deriving the electric field, with references to Gauss's Law and potential errors in existing proofs.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the absence of a factor of 2 in a proof they encountered, suggesting it may only consider one face of the sheet.
  • Another participant explains that for an infinite sheet of charge, the electric field is shared in both directions, leading to a factor of 1/2 when applying Gauss's Law.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that if the proof refers to an ordinary sheet of charge and omits the factor of 2, it indicates an error in the proof.
  • One participant mentions a potential integration error in the proof, implying that the mathematical derivation may have been flawed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct treatment of the electric field produced by an infinite sheet of charge, with no consensus reached on the validity of the proof in question or the correct application of Gauss's Law.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of considering the geometry of the problem and the nature of the charge distribution when deriving the electric field, indicating that assumptions about the configuration can lead to different results.

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I was browsing the internet looking for alternate proofs to why the electric field produced by an infinite sheet was equal to the charge density divided by twice the space permitivity constant. However, in my search I came across a proof that confused me at this link, http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae544.cfm"

It found the electric field produced to be eqaul to the charge density divided by only the space permitivity constant. My question is, what happened to the factor of 2. Are they only considering one face of the sheet but even then should that not decrease it by another factor of 2. What is going on here?
 
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This is a common confusion if you do not look carefully at the nature of the charge distribution. On one hand, you have an infinite SHEET of charge, i.e. you have the charge occupying only a sheet, for example, the x-y plane. Here, the E-field is being shared in both spaces z>0 and z<0. So if you do Gauss's Law on here, the resulting E-field has a factor of 1/2.

On the other hand, if you have a conductor occupying the space at z<0, while the surface at z=0 (still the x-y plane) still has the charge, then a similar Gauss's Law application will get you E-field that is twice as large. All the E-field is in the z>0 space.

So just because you have an infinite plane of charge doesn't mean you can ignore the rest of the geometry of the problem.

Zz.
 
smithnh said:
It found the electric field produced to be eqaul to the charge density divided by only the space permitivity constant. My question is, what happened to the factor of 2. Are they only considering one face of the sheet but even then should that not decrease it by another factor of 2. What is going on here?
I didn't look at the proof in detail, but if they are talking about an ordinary sheet of charge and they left out that factor of 2, then they made an error somewhere.

(As Zapper points out, there's a common source of confusion when deriving the field from a charged conducting sheet compared to just a sheet of charge. But in that link I don't see them talking about conductors.)
 
integration error

Doc Al said:
I didn't look at the proof in detail, but if they are talking about an ordinary sheet of charge and they left out that factor of 2, then they made an error somewhere.
They messed up the integration:

[tex]\int \frac{a}{(a^2 + x^2)^{3/2}} \;da= \frac{-1}{\sqrt{a^2 + x^2}} \neq \frac{-2}{\sqrt{a^2 + x^2}}[/tex]
 
Thanks for the help.
 

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