Electric Field Strength between Two Infinite Lines of Charge

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The problem involves calculating the electric field strength at a specific height above the midpoint between two infinite lines of charge, each with a linear charge density. The context is rooted in electrostatics, particularly the behavior of electric fields generated by line charges.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand the question's requirements and considers integrating the formula for electric field strength. Some participants suggest using the principle of superposition to find the electric field contributions from each line charge. There is discussion about determining the correct distance "r" and the direction of the electric field vectors.

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Participants are actively engaged in refining their understanding of vector addition for electric fields. There is a focus on correctly identifying the components of the electric field and ensuring the signs are appropriate based on the configuration of the charges. Guidance has been provided regarding the need to add the components vectorially and to simplify the expressions.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is an ongoing examination of assumptions related to the geometry of the problem and the behavior of electric fields.

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Homework Statement



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The figure is a cross section of two infinite lines of charge that extend out of the page. Both have linear charge density \lambda. Find an expression for the electric field strength E at the heigth y above the midpoint between the lines.

Homework Equations



Well E = \frac{1}{4\Pi\epsilon_{0}}\frac{2\lambda}{r} for an infinite line of charge.

The Attempt at a Solution



I am not quite sure what this question is asking. I think I have to integrate that formula to get an expression at y but I am not sure.
 
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No need to integrate--use superposition. Use that formula to find the electric field from each line charge at the point in question. (What would "r" be? What's the direction of each field contribution?) Then just add the two vectors to find the total field at that point.
 
I placed the fields like this.
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I said:

r = \sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}

E1 = \frac{1}{4\Pi\epsilon_{0}}\frac{2\lambda}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}

E2 = \frac{1}{4\Pi\epsilon_{0}}\frac{2\lambda}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}

ENET = E1 + E2
 
Looks good, but you're not done.
KillerZ said:
ENET = E1 + E2
Actually find the resultant (in terms of the given variables).
 
Like this?

ENET = \frac{1}{4\Pi\epsilon_{0}}\frac{2\lambda}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}} + \frac{1}{4\Pi\epsilon_{0}}\frac{2\lambda}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}} = \frac{1}{4\Pi\epsilon_{0}}\left[\frac{2\lambda}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}} + \frac{2\lambda}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}\right]
 
KillerZ said:
Like this?
No. You must add them like vectors. (Find the x and y components.)
 
Ok, I think I got it.

(E1)x = (E1)cos\theta
(E2)x = (E2)cos\theta

(E1)y = (E1)sin\theta
(E2)y = (E2)sin\theta

(E1)x = \frac{1}{4\Pi\epsilon_{0}}\frac{2\lambda}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}\frac{\frac{d}{2}}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}

(E2)x = \frac{1}{4\Pi\epsilon_{0}}\frac{2\lambda}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}\frac{\frac{d}{2}}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}

(E1)y = \frac{1}{4\Pi\epsilon_{0}}\frac{2\lambda}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}\frac{y}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}

(E2)y = \frac{1}{4\Pi\epsilon_{0}}\frac{2\lambda}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}\frac{y}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}

then add the x components and the y components:

ENET = \frac{1}{4\Pi\epsilon_{0}}\left[\frac{2\lambda}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}\frac{\frac{d}{2}}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}} + \frac{2\lambda}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}\frac{\frac{d}{2}}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}\right] i , \frac{1}{4\Pi\epsilon_{0}}\left[\frac{2\lambda}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}\frac{y}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}} + \frac{2\lambda}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}\frac{y}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}\right] j
 
KillerZ said:
Ok, I think I got it.

(E1)x = (E1)cos\theta
(E2)x = (E2)cos\theta

(E1)y = (E1)sin\theta
(E2)y = (E2)sin\theta
Careful with the signs of these components. (You should be able to look at the diagram and immediately have an idea of which way the total field will point.)

Correct the signs as needed and redo. Be sure to simplify your final answer as much as possible.
 
Ok, I think I finally have it. I fixed the signs.

(E1)x = -(E1)cos\theta
(E2)x = (E2)cos\theta

(E1)y = (E1)sin\theta
(E2)y = (E2)sin\theta

(E1)x = -\frac{1}{4\Pi\epsilon_{0}}\frac{2\lambda}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}\frac{\frac{d}{2}}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}

(E2)x = \frac{1}{4\Pi\epsilon_{0}}\frac{2\lambda}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}\frac{\frac{d}{2}}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}

(E1)y = \frac{1}{4\Pi\epsilon_{0}}\frac{2\lambda}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}\frac{y}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}

(E2)y = \frac{1}{4\Pi\epsilon_{0}}\frac{2\lambda}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}\frac{y}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}

then add the x components and the y components:

the x components cancel as they are equal but opposite.

ENET = \frac{1}{4\Pi\epsilon_{0}}\left[\frac{2\lambda}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}\frac{y}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}} + \frac{2\lambda}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}\frac{y}{\sqrt{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}}\right] j

= \frac{1}{4\Pi\epsilon_{0}}\left[\frac{y2\lambda}{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}} + \frac{y2\lambda}{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}\right] j

= \frac{1}{4\Pi\epsilon_{0}}\left[\frac{y4\lambda}{y^{2} + (\frac{d}{2})^{2}}\right] j
 
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Looks good! (Cancel those 4s. :wink:)
 

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