Electric Fields Cancelling Out?

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The discussion revolves around the electric field of a uniform ring of charge, particularly focusing on the cancellation of electric field lines in the y-direction. Participants are exploring the implications of electric field line behavior and the concept of vector summation of electric fields from multiple charges.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning the nature of electric field lines and their behavior, particularly regarding cancellation and crossing. There is an exploration of how forces from different parts of the charge distribution interact and the implications of these interactions on the net electric field.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing clarifications and examples to aid understanding. Some have offered insights into the behavior of electric fields from multiple sources and how they can coexist without crossing in the net field.

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There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the traditional statement that electric field lines cannot cross, as well as the implications of this in the context of vector addition of electric fields from multiple charges.

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An example problem I am reading is about the electric field of a uniform ring of charge.

I attached the diagram provided in the problem.

What confuses me is that the electric field lines in the y-direction cancel out. Wouldn't the fields have to cross, if they were to cancel out? What does it even mean that they cancel out?
 

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They do cross. It means for every +y force there is an equal and opposite -y force.

Pretend you have just a half ring. Then there will be a net y force at P. Then move the ring 180 degrees. Then the y force will be the same magnitude but in the opposite y direction. Hope that helps you see the situation.
 
Yes, that is helpful, it just seems to contradict what I have been told, that electric fields lines aren't suppose to cross. What exactly is meant by that statement, that electric field lines can't cross?
 
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Another example:

If I have one point charge I get a field. If I have 2 point charges the field is the (vector) sum due to the two charges. The fields exist independent of each other, and they add. If I put a unit charge inbetween the first two the force on the unit charge is the (vector) sum of the fields due to the first two charges. So the fields set up by the first two charges have to coexist at the point of the unit charge, right?
 
Bashyboy said:
What exactly is meant by that statement, that electric field lines can't cross?
You are considering a field as the sum of contributory fields. The lines from some contributions may well cross with others, but no lines will cross in the net field.
 

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