Electric Fields/ Electric Potential

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The discussion revolves around the concept of electric fields and electric potential in the context of parallel metal plates with a specified potential difference. The original poster attempts to draw electric field lines and calculate the electric field strength at a specific point between the plates, as well as sketch a graph of potential versus distance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of electric field strength and the relationship between potential and distance in a uniform electric field. There is a focus on understanding the linear nature of the potential graph and the implications of the potential difference at different points between the plates.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide guidance on how to approach the graphing of potential and clarify the relationship between electric field strength and potential difference. There is acknowledgment of a mistake in the original calculation of the electric field, with some participants confirming the corrected approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants express concern about understanding the relationship between voltage and distance in the context of electric fields, indicating a potential gap in foundational knowledge regarding linear functions and their graphical representations.

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Homework Statement


Figure 1 shows a pair of parallel metal plates, A and B, fixed vertically 20mm apart with a potential difference of 1500V between them.
(a)(i) Draw the electric field lines in the space between the plates and calculate the electric field strength at point P.
(a)(ii)Sketch a graph showing the potential at different points in space between the plates.

Homework Equations


[tex]E_{f}=\frac{V}{x}[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


The first part is shown in the diagram by my (rather scruffy)red lines; they are drawn better on my actual diagram. :redface:

For the potential at P:

[tex]E_{P}=\frac{1500/2}{(20 \times 10^{-3})/2} = 7.5 \times 10^{4}Vm^{-1}[/tex]

For the last part I have a 100mmx60mm piece of graph paper with the labels 'potential' and 'distance' on the vertical and horizontal axes respectively.

Now, in my thinking all I can get from this is that the graph must start at 0, and the gradient must be [tex]E[/tex].

c.f. [tex]y = mx + c[/tex] and you get [tex]V = Ex (+ 0)[/tex].

I have my values for [tex]V[/tex] from (0>1500)V on my potential axis and my values for [tex]x[/tex] from (0>20.0)e-3m.

The problem with this is I can see everything that is going on, but I just cannot draw a graph of it; and it's really starting to annoy, so any help would be appreciated.
 

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You can draw the graph in the same way you draw any linear function. You know it is a straight line so you only need two points. However you made a mistake in calculating the electric field. You are using the potential difference of 1500V at the point P, but the potential difference between plate A and P is not 1500.
 
Cyosis said:
You can draw the graph in the same way you draw any linear function. You know it is a straight line so you only need two points. However you made a mistake in calculating the electric field. You are using the potential difference of 1500V at the point P, but the potential difference between plate A and P is not 1500.

Right, it's half way between the two plates in a uniform field so the potential drop is half...right?

So this would mean it's just [tex]E = \frac{1500/2}{(20 \times 10^{-3})/2} = 7.5 \times 10 ^{4}Vm^{-1}[/tex]
 
Yes that is correct. You know that the eletric field does not change between the plates so calculating the field at any point gives you the field for all points (within the capacitor).
 
It's quite worrying to me that I had such problems with a [tex]V \propto x[/tex] relationship :smile:
 

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