Electric Flux Density for Coaxial Cable

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the calculation of electric flux density in a coaxial cable, focusing on a specific homework problem. Participants explore the relevant equations and methods for solving the problem, including the application of boundary conditions and the implications of cylindrical symmetry.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration over discrepancies between their solution and the book's answer, indicating a belief that they are using the correct equations.
  • Another participant suggests using a specific differential equation related to radial electric flux density and emphasizes the importance of appropriate boundary conditions.
  • A different participant notes that the problem exhibits cylindrical symmetry, which affects the expected relationships in the equations used.
  • One participant requests clarification on their equation for the electric field and seeks examples to aid their understanding.
  • Another participant advises solving the differential equation in general to find arbitrary constants, which should be determined using boundary conditions for each region of the coaxial cable.
  • It is mentioned that the electric field outside the cable is zero and that the D field must be continuous across all regions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct approach or solution to the problem. Multiple competing views and methods are presented, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the potential confusion arising from the use of similar symbols for different variables, which may complicate the discussion. There is also mention of the need for specific boundary conditions and the relationship between electric flux density (D) and electric field (E).

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Homework Statement



I am given the following problem:
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Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



My known equations and attempt to the problem:

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Basically, my answer to the problem is not the same as the book's answer, and I'm pretty sure I'm using the right equations. What could I possibly be doing wrong here? I've been trying to figure this out for three hours now, and am now frustrated. I apologize for my ignorance here, but any advice or tips will be greatly appreciated.
 
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Homework Statement



I am given the following problem:

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Homework Equations


3. The Attempt at a Solution [/B]

My known equations and attempt to the problem:

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Basically, my answer to the problem is not the same as the book's answer, and I'm pretty sure I'm using the right equations. What could I possibly be doing wrong here? I've been trying to figure this out for three hours now, and am now frustrated. I apologize for my ignorance here, but any advice or tips will be greatly appreciated.
 

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Since D is radial, have you tried:

\frac{1}{r}\frac{d}{dr}r{\bf D} = \rho_{free}

... for the appropriate boundary conditions?

(aside: Don't you hate it when people duplicate constant and variable symbols - try \rho=r, r1=b and r2=c, ... this allows you to keep \rho values for densities: it'll make discussions easier.)

You will certainly not get an inverse-square relationship as that only happens for spherical symmetry.
Your problem has cylindrical symmetry.
 
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I don’t see this equation in my book, but I tried it.

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I'm not sure where to go from here. Is my equation for E correct?

Could someone please provide me with an example to get me going. My assignment is due very soon and any help is greatly greatly appreciated.

Thank you!
 

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Google for "electric field cylindrical capacitor" - there's lots.

Using D:
You have to solve the differential equation in general, this will give you some "arbitrary constants" that you find values for from the boundary conditions for each region.

On the inner core surface, you have a charge distribution ... you have a balancing charge distribution on the outer surface, the electric field outside the cable is zero. The D field has to be continuous across all the regeons and you need to know the relationship between D and E.

The equation I gave you was just \nabla {\bf D} = \rho_{free} for cylindrical co-ordinates.

(Note: from gausses law, the field between a and c without the dielectric would be the same as that due to a line of charge right down the middle.)
 

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