Electric Potential and Electric fields

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between electric potential and electric fields, specifically questioning whether a point can exist with one but not the other. Participants explore the implications of constant electric fields and the nature of electric field lines.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants inquire about the existence of electric potential without an electric field and vice versa. They also seek examples to illustrate these concepts and question the definitions and relationships between electric fields and potentials.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants expressing differing views on the relationship between electric fields and potentials. Some guidance has been offered regarding the definitions, but multiple interpretations are being explored without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that electric potential is often relative to a reference point, which may influence their understanding of the concepts being discussed.

Brooke Turner

Homework Statement


Can there be a point in space where there is an electric potential but not electric field? Can there be a point in space where there is an electric field but no electric potential? Explain you answer.

What would the electric field lines look like if the electric field was constant? Would they be parallel instead of perpendicular? Straight?

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Brooke Turner said:
Can there be a point in space where there is an electric potential but not electric field?
Yes.
Brooke Turner said:
Can there be a point in space where there is an electric field but no electric potential?
Yes.
Brooke Turner said:
What would the electric field lines look like if the electric field was constant? Would they be parallel instead of perpendicular?
Perpendicular to what?
 
Can you give an example as to when there can be an electric field but no electric potential? and Vice versa
 
I find the answers above a bit odd. I am still learning so take it with a grain of salt, but electric fields and electric charges both have the unit charge as a common denominator. I would think that makes them critically linked.

An electric field is the space between two potentials, how can you have a field without the potentials??
 
Brooke Turner said:
Can you give an example as to when there can be an electric field but no electric potential? and Vice versa
What can you say about the axis of an electric dipole?
What can you say about the interior of a uniformly charged conducting hollow sphere?
 
chopnhack said:
An electric field is the space between two potentials, how can you have a field without the potentials??
I find this definition of the electric field odd.
Electric field is the "gradient" of electric potential. Just because the potential at a point is zero does not mean its gradient at that point is also zero.
 
Keep in mind that potential is relative to some reference point, the conventional choice being the potential at some location infinitely far away from any charge ("at infinity").

However, you are not constrained by convention; you could choose a reference point where the potential is the same as that of the location you wish to be "zero" :smile:
 

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