Electricity: electric field in a point Between Two Charges

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The discussion revolves around the application of the cosine rule in the context of calculating the resultant electric field between two charges. Participants are examining the differences in the formulation of the cosine rule as presented in various textbooks and its implications for vector addition in electricity.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are questioning the difference between the traditional cosine rule and its application in the context of electric fields. They discuss the angle used in the cosine rule and how it relates to vector addition of electric fields.

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The discussion is exploring the theoretical aspects of the cosine rule as it applies to vector addition in electricity. Some participants have provided insights into the angle used in the formula, while others are seeking clarification on terminology and the nature of the formula in this context.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions regarding the angles involved in the cosine rule as applied to electric fields. Participants are also considering whether the formula should be given a specific name in the context of electricity.

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Homework Statement


I've seen many books writing the cosine rule like this:
a^2 = b^2 + c^2 - 2bc cos A

My electricity textbook for an electric field in a point between two charges says this:
E resultant = root[E1^2 + E2^2 + 2*E1*E2*cos(angle between E1 and E2)]

In the first equation it is -2 and in my textbook it is +2.
Why is this?
Because if I use the -2 in my exercises it is wrong and the +2 is right.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I don't really have an attempt since it is more a theoretical question.
I understand how to use it, but I don't understand the +2 and -2.
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Epoch said:
I've seen many books writing the cosine rule like this:
a^2 = b^2 + c^2 - 2bc cos A
Note that this applies to a triangle. A is the angle between sides b & c of the triangle.

Epoch said:
My electricity textbook for an electric field in a point between two charges says this:
E resultant = root[E1^2 + E2^2 + 2*E1*E2*cos(angle between E1 and E2)]
If you draw a diagram of the vector sum of E1 and E2, you'll see that the angle that applies to the cosine rule is not the angle between those vectors. Instead it is ##A = \pi -
\theta##. Note that ##\cos(\pi -\theta) = -\cos\theta##.
 
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Doc Al said:
Note that this applies to a triangle. A is the angle between sides b & c of the triangle.If you draw a diagram of the vector sum of E1 and E2, you'll see that the angle that applies to the cosine rule is not the angle between those vectors. Instead it is ##A = \pi -
\theta##. Note that ##\cos(\pi -\theta) = -\cos\theta##.

So is it still called the cosine rule in electricity or does this formula have a specific name?
 
Epoch said:
So is it still called the cosine rule in electricity or does this formula have a specific name?
No reason to give that formula a special name. You're just adding vectors using the cosine rule. (There are other ways to add vectors. This is just one.)
 
Doc Al said:
No reason to give that formula a special name. You're just adding vectors using the cosine rule. (There are other ways to add vectors. This is just one.)
Thanks.
 

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