Electronic circuit, LED turns on if Vin is greater than or less than a value

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around designing an electronic circuit that activates an LED based on the input voltage (Vin) being either greater than 3 volts or less than 2 volts. The constraints include a maximum current of 100mA, the use of only one power supply, and a limit of fewer than ten components. Participants explore potential circuit designs and clarify the problem requirements.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how to compare Vin to two different voltage levels (2V and 3V) and questions whether these voltages are power supplies.
  • Another participant suggests using two comparators to achieve the desired functionality and encourages sketching a circuit to facilitate discussion.
  • A participant shares a simplified circuit sketch but acknowledges it may be missing elements, specifically on the outputs.
  • There is a suggestion to look at various examples of window comparators for better understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to design the circuit, and there is ongoing uncertainty regarding the interpretation of the problem statement and the circuit requirements.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential need for hysteresis in practical circuits, although it may not be necessary for simpler ideal circuits. The problem description is considered poorly worded, leading to ambiguity in understanding the requirements.

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Homework Statement



Construct a circuit that turns on if it the voltage provided is greater than 3 volts, or less than 2. MUST USE THESE CRITERIA: i<100mA, only one PS. Fewer than ten components.

Homework Equations



None that I know of, but we've covered resistors, caps, inductors, and op amps thus far.

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm pretty lost on this one. We've studied op amps, so I would know how to do this if this involved having one voltage source be greater than another, that is, using a comparator. Where I'm unsure is where you compare Vin to two different voltages. The problem description depicts 2V, 3V, and Vin going into an undefined element (our circuit) and then out to an LED. Unsure if this means that the 2V and 3V are PS's.

Sorry for the vagueness on this one. I'm also kind of unsure, since the problem is poorly worded.
 
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dylandrop said:

Homework Statement



Construct a circuit that turns on if it the voltage provided is greater than 3 volts, or less than 2. MUST USE THESE CRITERIA: i<100mA, only one PS. Fewer than ten components.

Homework Equations



None that I know of, but we've covered resistors, caps, inductors, and op amps thus far.

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm pretty lost on this one. We've studied op amps, so I would know how to do this if this involved having one voltage source be greater than another, that is, using a comparator. Where I'm unsure is where you compare Vin to two different voltages. The problem description depicts 2V, 3V, and Vin going into an undefined element (our circuit) and then out to an LED. Unsure if this means that the 2V and 3V are PS's.

Sorry for the vagueness on this one. I'm also kind of unsure, since the problem is poorly worded.

My first instinct would be to do it with two comparators. Try sketching up that circuit, and see how many components it takes. Assume that the 2V and 3V inputs are available, so you don't need to make them with resistor dividers off of the power supply. You should include hysteresis around the comparators in a practical circuit, but you may not need that if this problem is dealing with more simple ideal circuits.

Show us what you come up with for a 2-comparator circuit so we can discuss it.
 
I'm assuming it'd be something like the attached (sorry for the crappy MS paint job)
 

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dylandrop said:
I'm assuming it'd be something like the attached (sorry for the crappy MS paint job)

That's a pretty simplified version, and it's missing something on the outputs. Use Google Images to look at various examples of Window Comparators...
 

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