Electrons at rest have magnetic fields

• TruBlu4AU
In summary: Please provide a specific reference for this equation.Note also paragraph four which describes how the following information uses long thin magnets as shown in the figure. An electron is, to the best of our measurements, a point dipole. So the subsequent equations don't...Please provide a specific reference for this equation.
TruBlu4AU
It could be that I'm misinformed, but I heard electrons at rest have magnetic fields. I thought that magnetic fields required a charge to be traveling at velocity before a magnetic field would arise. If this is the case could someone help me out?

If an electron has a magnetic field at rest what is its strength? Or to be more specific, if we were to take the classical radius of the electron, 2.8179403267 x 10^-15m, what would the surface force due to magnetism be on the electron if we could somehow shrink ourselves to that size and stand on the electron's surface? Is there anyone who can calculate what that value would be assuming what I heard was correct?

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Electrons have a property called "spin".
With this comes a magnetic dipole moment, so an electron is a tiny permanent magnet.
Its magnetic moment has a value of about 10^-23 J/T (Bohr magneton).

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Electrons have spin angular momentum and charge, so they do have an intrinsic magnetic dipole moment.

The classical radius thing is meaningless for an electron so there isn't a good answer for your other questions.

I see guys, thanks. So electrons are like little magnets then. Is there any way to calculate their magnetic field strength?

DaleSpam said:
Electrons have spin angular momentum and charge, so they do have an intrinsic magnetic dipole moment.

The classical radius thing is meaningless for an electron so there isn't a good answer for your other questions.

I've got one more question concerning what was brought up here. If electrons are like tiny magnets with two poles of different polarity why do we view them as charged particles? Maybe there is something here I'm not quite grasping. Here's my thinking, an electron has a negative charge of roughly 1.6x10^-19 C. However, it must also have two poles of opposite polarity(like say the earth). Why don't these poles cancel out and give us a neutral particle? Is there something here I'm misunderstanding?

You seem to be mixing up magnetic poles and electrical charge. An electron has a monopolar electric field and a dipole magnetic field. Therefore it has an electric charge but not a magnetic charge (magnetic charges don't exist as far as we can tell).

vanhees71
DaleSpam said:
You seem to be mixing up magnetic poles and electrical charge. An electron has a monopolar electric field and a dipole magnetic field. Therefore it has an electric charge but not a magnetic charge (magnetic charges don't exist as far as we can tell).

If magnetic fields don't have charge then why can we write a Beta field equation as , B=μ0/4π(Q/r2) where: Q= the charge of the field? Which again is the analog in magnetism of Coulomb's law?

That equation is not correct. Where did you get it?

Magnetic fields are caused by moving electric charges (electric current), not by separate magnetic charges.

DaleSpam said:
That equation is not correct. Where did you get it?

Magnetic fields are caused by moving electric charges (electric current), not by separate magnetic charges.

The equation came from Coulomb, the same guy who gave us Coulomb's law F=k(q1q2/r^2).

The law of force between poles was investigated by Charles Coulomb, using the same torsion balance with which he established the law of force between electric charges, and was found to be similar in form to that for charges.

In coulomb's law the the constant of proportionality was found to be k coulomb's constant which is the permittivity of free space. In the other equation the constant of proportionality was found to be μ0/4π the permeability of free space.

Please provide a specific reference for this equation.

Do you understand the difference between a monopole and a dipole? Gauss law for magnetism prohibits monopolar magnetic sources, but Gauss law permits monopolar electric sources. Thus the electron has electric charge (monopolar), and a magnetic moment (dipole).

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DaleSpam said:
Please provide a specific reference for this equation.

Do you understand the difference between a monopole and a dipole? Gauss law for magnetism prohibits monopolar magnetic sources, but Gauss law permits monopolar electric sources. Thus the electron has electric charge (monopolar), and a magnetic moment (dipole).

http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/C/Coulombs_law_for_magnets.html

TruBlu4AU said:
Read the third paragraph on that page. It confirms what I was saying.

Note also paragraph four which describes how the following information uses long thin magnets as shown in the figure. An electron is, to the best of our measurements, a point dipole. So the subsequent equations don't apply.

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What is the concept of electrons at rest having magnetic fields?

The concept of electrons at rest having magnetic fields is based on the fact that electrons, which are negatively charged particles, have a property called spin. This spin creates a tiny magnetic field around the electron, even when it is not moving.

How does the spin of an electron create a magnetic field?

The spin of an electron is an intrinsic property that can be thought of as the electron rotating around its own axis. This rotation generates a magnetic dipole moment, which is the source of the magnetic field around the electron.

Why is it important to understand that electrons at rest have magnetic fields?

Understanding the concept of electrons at rest having magnetic fields is crucial for many areas of science and technology. It helps explain the behavior of atoms, the properties of materials, and the functioning of electronic devices.

Can the magnetic field of an electron at rest be measured?

Yes, the magnetic field of an electron at rest can be measured using specialized equipment such as magnetic force microscopes. These tools can detect the extremely small magnetic field created by the spin of an electron.

Is the magnetic field of an electron at rest the same as that of a moving electron?

No, the magnetic field of an electron at rest is different from that of a moving electron. The magnetic field of a moving electron is stronger and more complex, as it is also affected by the electron's velocity and direction of motion.

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