Element 114 = Flerovium; Element 116 = Livermorium

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The discussion centers around the official naming of two man-made elements, flerovium (element 114) and livermorium (element 116), and the implications of these updates for periodic tables and scientific nomenclature. The conversation includes reactions to the naming and the challenges associated with these elements' brief existence.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express the need to update their periodic tables following the official naming of flerovium and livermorium.
  • One participant humorously notes the hassle of updating laboratory flasks containing compounds of these elements, given their short-lived nature.
  • A participant questions the appropriateness of the name livermorium, suggesting that possessing it would lead to a state of "Livelessium" due to its instability.
  • Another participant reflects on the historical context of the elements, mentioning previous knowledge of their existence before the official announcement.

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Participants generally agree on the excitement surrounding the official naming of the elements, but there is disagreement regarding the appropriateness of the name livermorium, with at least one participant expressing a negative view.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the appropriateness of the name livermorium, and the implications of the elements' short lifespans are acknowledged but not fully explored.

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Readers interested in recent developments in chemistry, particularly in the field of synthetic elements and their nomenclature, may find this discussion relevant.

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NEW YORK (AP) — Nearly a year after they joined the periodic table, two man-made elements have been officially named.

What used to be element 114 is now flerovium, honoring the Flerov Laboratory of Nuclear Reactions in Dubna, Russia, where it was created. Element 116 is now livermorium, for the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in Livermore, Calif., home of a scientific team that participated in its creation in Dubna. The chemical symbols are Fl and Lv.

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http://news.yahoo.com/livermorium-flerovium-join-periodic-table-names-213303266.html

http://phys.org/news/2012-05-livermorium-flerovium-periodic-table-elements.html

http://www.webelements.com/flerovium/, Fl

http://www.webelements.com/livermorium/, Lv
 
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Aw, geez! Now I have to update all my periodic tables!
 
I had seen a couple of tables which had these listed over a few months ago, but its good to have them official now! :)
 
chemisttree said:
Aw, geez! Now I have to update all my periodic tables!
At least you don't have to update all the flasks containing Lv and Fl compounds 8]. If those things actually existed for more than a few nanoseconds, it would be such a hassle with the confusion potential between Fl and F(lourine)I(odine)...
 
Good to see 2 new official members admitted to the periodic table club.
 
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Re: Livermorium

I don't think this name is appropriate. If you held an ounce of it, you'd actually Livelessium.
 
There were only 92 of which the news had come to Harvard,
And there may be many others - now some have been discarvard. :blushing:
 

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