Elementary Algebra & Euclidean Geometry

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The discussion revolves around the theoretical foundations of elementary algebra and Euclidean geometry. Participants express a desire for a deeper understanding of the principles behind algebraic operations, such as the validity of exponent laws, the order of operations (BEDMAS), and the distributive property. The conversation also touches on the adequacy of existing textbooks in addressing these foundational concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the validity of various algebraic operations and seeks a theoretical understanding, expressing dissatisfaction with textbooks that focus on memorization rather than proofs and definitions.
  • Another participant notes that the validity of algebraic operations follows from field axioms, suggesting that different axioms could lead to different conclusions.
  • There is a mention of BEDMAS as a standard order of operations, with a participant explaining its purpose in simplifying expressions.
  • One participant highlights the distributive property as a method for multiplying binomials and suggests that it can be demonstrated graphically.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of understanding additive inverses in the context of algebraic simplification.
  • Several participants recommend looking for introductory algebra textbooks that cover field axioms and foundational concepts, suggesting specific authors and titles.
  • One participant reflects on their past educational experiences, noting a lack of focus on field axioms during secondary school instruction.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of understanding the theoretical foundations of algebra. However, there is no consensus on the adequacy of current textbooks or the best resources for learning these concepts, leading to multiple competing views on recommended materials.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the sufficiency of their current textbooks and the depth of coverage regarding field axioms and foundational principles. There is also a mention of the historical context of algebra instruction, indicating variations in teaching approaches over time.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals seeking a deeper theoretical understanding of elementary algebra and geometry, particularly those interested in the foundational principles and axioms that underpin these subjects.

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I would say by now, I'm an expert in manipulating equations and playing with algebra. However, I've also realized I have no idea why some of the operations I do are valid. For example... why is (x+2)(x-2) = x^2 - 4? Why does this expansion work? I'm guessing it preserves some kind of field definition. And why do the exponent laws hold? Why must BEDMAS be preserved? Why is a negative times a positive a negative? Why can you multiply two equations?

These are all things I would like a firm theoretical grasp of. The problem is most of the algebra books and precalc books I've seen only emphasize memorization of the techiques, which is a skill I already have. I'd like theorems, proofs, and definitions of elementary math. The closest thing to such a book I've read is Courant's WIM, but even he already assumes you know a lot of this stuff, like exponents (which I do, but not why they work). Likewise, I'd like a firm grasp of Euclidean geometry for the mathematically mature.

Can anyone recommend titles?
 
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These things follow from some axioms, in particular those of a field.
Choose different axioms and they will not follow.
So the question is really why adopt field axioms.
Because the system we are interested in follows them.

What is BEDMAS? Order of operations? It is simply an standard order so that the more common expression is shorter that the less commom one.
of expressions of the type
2?*?x?+?1
(2*x)+1
is more common than
2*(x+1)
so we let
2*x+1=(2*x)+1
 
Multiplication of two binomials is accomplished with the distributive property and this can be demonstrated graphically.
 
Note also, that the example which you presented will give a sum which contains two additive inverses of each other, therefore the two terms yield zero, giving you only two terms persisting in the simplified result.
 
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I figured it was a field axiom that had to be preserved. But these are not the only questions I have. And its not sensible to post them all here. I'd like a book on this sort of stuff. Can anyone recommend one?

Or is this stuff I'd learn in number theory?
 
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Howers: Most of what you ask is treated well in Introductory Algebra textbooks. You might be using an inferior textbook. Look for old used ones by authors such as Wright & New, Larson & Hostetler (& Edwards?), Lial & Miller, Drooyan, Barker (or Auffman & Barker).
Some Intermediate Algebra books also deal with the field axioms, but best first to check the Introductory books.

Many years ago, some(if not most) Algebra teachers would spend a couple of weeks instructing about the field axioms before moving into different kinds of expressions, equations, and other problem-solving. Instruction dealth with reference to the real-number line for explaining the concepts about number properties and properties of equality and inequality.
 
symbolipoint said:
Howers: Most of what you ask is treated well in Introductory Algebra textbooks. You might be using an inferior textbook. Look for old used ones by authors such as Wright & New, Larson & Hostetler (& Edwards?), Lial & Miller, Drooyan, Barker (or Auffman & Barker).
Some Intermediate Algebra books also deal with the field axioms, but best first to check the Introductory books.

Many years ago, some(if not most) Algebra teachers would spend a couple of weeks instructing about the field axioms before moving into different kinds of expressions, equations, and other problem-solving. Instruction dealth with reference to the real-number line for explaining the concepts about number properties and properties of equality and inequality.

Thanks. I've seen the field axioms for the first time in linear algebra, but never when deriving secondary school results. In high school all we ever did is examples.

I'll check out your list of introductory algebra books, but so far I'm having trouble finding most.
 

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