Eletric motor with wind turbine (And in side small generator

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of integrating wind turbines and small generators into electric cars to enhance energy generation and battery charging. Participants explore the practicality of this concept, particularly in the context of existing electric vehicle technologies and renewable energy sources.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes using an 85kw electric motor from a Tesla in conjunction with wind turbines and solar panels to create a self-sustaining energy system for cars.
  • Another participant questions the necessity of wind turbines in electric vehicles, noting that electric cars already utilize batteries and solar panels for energy.
  • A follow-up response clarifies that the proposed wind turbines would harness wind generated by the car's movement to charge small generators, suggesting a design that could accommodate multiple turbines.
  • One participant argues that since the wind to spin the turbines comes from the car's motion, no additional energy can be harvested, implying a fundamental flaw in the proposal.
  • A later reply categorizes the concept as an attempt at a perpetual motion machine, leading to the conclusion that the discussion is not permissible under forum rules.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the viability and necessity of incorporating wind turbines into electric vehicles. The discussion remains unresolved, with significant contention regarding the energy generation claims.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in the proposal, including the dependence on the car's motion for wind generation and the implications of attempting to create a perpetual motion system.

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Hello all my friends...! This is my first discusion about this type of discusion , so let make long short story i read people from 2009 want to find way how to use wind in car producion or self use... I was thinking let me try to find way to get solution on that problem so after long thinking , i find perfect way but now we will discuse its that in Practise usefull... i was thinking Electro motor 85kw (from tesla one Ac what consume 1000 amp 300 w) why its perfect on way with batery and motor can fit on L1 or (DN-One Project)... so Car Modification on Interior to be a bit up for 10 to 15 cm. So this type if turbines are not only air flow , they have Comlex Sistem what will control flow on air (to don't broke wind generators propeller) in side will have that kind of generators so that generators suply batery with energy + of roof solar I am thinking that will be on long way search on natural progress and own car regeneration on energy so if you ask me how much can produse energy ? I can say near 65kw with Both sistems so want to open discusion let talk so i want to hear opinions :) before i go in university to offer it

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Welcome to PF;
It is unclear what problem you are trying to solve with this proposal.
There are already cars run on electric batteries and motors - including some which have solar panels ... what role would the wind turbine play in all this?

Is the idea to use the wind flowing over the car as it goes to run a turbine to charge the car's battery?
 
Simon Bridge said:
Welcome to PF;
It is unclear what problem you are trying to solve with this proposal.
There are already cars run on electric batteries and motors - including some which have solar panels ... what role would the wind turbine play in all this?

Is the idea to use the wind flowing over the car as it goes to run a turbine to charge the car's battery?
yes sorry for my bad unclear say... its wind flowing turbine inside have small generators for charge batery what they have each 16w (can be put 14 trubines in one car mesure : from 3 to 5 meter long and from1,80 to 2 wide) and max small generators can be put from 1700 to 1900
 
The wind to spin the turbines comes from the motor moving the car, which is powered by the batteries, so no new energy can be harvested this way.

Since this is an attempt at a perpetual motion machine, this thread is locked, per PF rules.
 

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