Energy Conversion: Where Does the Energy Come From?

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When a helium balloon rises, it gains gravitational potential energy (Ep) while the surrounding air loses Ep due to the density differential. This displacement of air molecules results in a conversion of energy, where the reduction in Ep of the air translates to kinetic energy (Ek) that propels the balloon upward. The discussion clarifies that while the balloon itself gains height and Ep, the overall system experiences a loss of Ep. The energy dynamics involve work done on the balloon as it ascends. Understanding these energy conversions is crucial to grasping the mechanics of buoyancy and ascent in gases.
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When a helium balloon rises from rest, it gains Ep, at the same time, it gains Ek. So where does these energy come from?
My guess would be due to density differential, the balloon will rise and this will displace the air molecules which will fall to take the place of the balloon. This reduction of Ep of air molecules is converted to Ek, which pushes the balloon, causing work done on the balloon, thus giving it energy.
What do you think?
Thanks.
 
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elitewarr said:
When a helium balloon rises from rest, it gains Ep, at the same time, it gains Ek. So where does these energy come from?
My guess would be due to density differential, the balloon will rise and this will displace the air molecules which will fall to take the place of the balloon. This reduction of Ep of air molecules is converted to Ek, which pushes the balloon, causing work done on the balloon, thus giving it energy.
You are exactly correct.
 
Thank you for the fast reply :D
 
DaleSpam said:
You are exactly correct.

Do you mean that a helium balloon gains Ep on ascent... No.

A helium balloon looses Ep during it's ascent and gains altitude.

E.g. By pulling a balloon down you expend energy while the balloon gains that energy as Ep.
 
Lok said:
Do you mean that a helium balloon gains Ep on ascent... No.

A helium balloon looses Ep during it's ascent and gains altitude.

E.g. By pulling a balloon down you expend energy while the balloon gains that energy as Ep.
The balloon (treated in isolation) gains Gravitational Potential Energy - because it's higher - but the total system - including the air around it, loses Ep, for the reason given above.
 
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