Energy in Electromagnetic fields

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The discussion centers on the energy residing in electromagnetic fields within conductors and insulators, focusing on the challenges of time averaging in calculations. The time averaging formula for conductors is presented as the ratio of electric to magnetic field energy densities, specifically \(\epsilon E^{2}/\mu H^{2}\). It is noted that in good conductors, the large imaginary part of permittivity significantly reduces the electric field's contribution, making the magnetic field's contribution more dominant. The ratio of \(E^2/H^2\) in conductors is proportional to \(\omega\mu/\sigma\), highlighting the negligible role of \(E^2\) due to the conductivity \(\sigma\). The conversation also includes tips on using LaTeX for mathematical expressions.
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Iv been trying to prove that the energy reisdes in the magnetic field in a good conductor and equally in both electric and magnetic for an insulator. My problem lies in the time averaging part of the problem...i can't seem to find out how they do it!

The time averaging formula used is:

For conductor:
<1/2 \epsilon E^{2}>/<1/2 \mu H^{2}>

is worked out to this:

\epsilonE^{2}/\mu H^{2}

The epsilons and mu's look like superscripts but there just multipled in!

any thoughts?
 
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As I recall the energy density is dependent on the integral of the summation of the squares of the magnitudes of the electric and magnetic field, not the ratios. In a good conductor the imaginary part of the permittivity is very very large which would greatly decrease the contribution of electric field, leaving the magnetic contribution to dominate (if that is the case).
 
The ratio of E^2/H^2 in a good conductor is proportional to
\omega\mu/\sigma. (The \mu is the relative permeability.) The sigma in the denominator is why E^2 is negligible.
The 1/2 in the time average of the squares is just the time average of sin^2(wt).
 
venomxx said:
The epsilons and mu's look like superscripts but there just multipled in!

When you want to use LaTeX "inline", i.e. inside of text, use "itex" and "/itex" tags, not "tex" and "/tex". You might as well do the whole equation at once, while you're at it: \epsilon E^2 / \mu H^2 (click on an equation to see the code).
 
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