Energy in scuba tank moving a car?

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The discussion revolves around the energy stored in a scuba tank and its potential applications, particularly in moving or stopping a car. Participants explore the implications of releasing this energy quickly versus slowly, and seek to understand the calculations involved in these scenarios.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that a filled scuba tank can store over a million joules of energy and questions if this energy is sufficient to move or stop a sizable car.
  • Another participant provides a specific example, stating that a 12-liter scuba cylinder at 200 bar stores about 1200 kJ of energy when released to atmospheric pressure.
  • A participant seeks to visualize the energy in practical terms, asking how far a car could be pushed if all the energy is expended at once.
  • One participant compares the energy content of a teaspoon of gasoline to the energy in the scuba tank, suggesting that it contains about 1000 kJ of energy.
  • Another participant calculates that a small 100 HP engine would run for about 15 seconds on the energy from the scuba tank, assuming 100% efficiency.
  • A further contribution clarifies that a typical car using about 10 horsepower would consume energy at a rate of approximately 7 kW, estimating that the scuba tank could power the car for about 3 minutes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying viewpoints on the practical applications of the energy stored in a scuba tank, with no consensus on the exact calculations or implications of releasing the energy in different ways.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not fully resolve the assumptions regarding efficiency, resistance, and the dynamics of energy release, leaving some calculations and implications open to interpretation.

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Individuals interested in energy storage, mechanics of motion, and practical applications of physics in real-world scenarios may find this discussion relevant.

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I've watched the videos and read a lot of posts on here about compressed air storage.

I read that a filled scuba tank has over a million joules?

I'm trying to visualize what happens if you suddenly release all the energy from that tank,
it should be enough to move or brake/stop a sizable car?

example I had read was a 1200 kg car going 20 m/s needs 24000 Newtons to stop?

so, a scuba tank has enough energy stored to stop this 1200kg multiple times ?

if that same 1200kg car is at rest, and you wanted to vent the tank to try to move it
if you vent it slow enough, you won't overcome resistance and will empty the tank without
it even moving?

If I vent the tank in an instant how do I calculate how far the vehicle is pushed?

If I vent slower, say 5 or 20 seconds, how do I calculate how that effects the distance a vehicle is pushed.

Thanks for any explanations, I've been reading and not really understanding.
 
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A 12l scuba cylinder at 200bar (3500psi) stores about 1200KJ (0.35KWH) if the air is released to 1atm.
 
Ok, 1200kj or 1.2 million joules. Can you help me with what some real world task might help me

visualize how much that is?

... for example how far it could push a car or other object, etc if expended all at once?

thanks!
 
A teaspoon of gasoline contains about 1000KJ of energy.

A small 100HP engine is 75KW, so a 0.35kwh tank would run it for about 15seconds (assumign 100% efficency)
 
Well, a horsepower is 746 Watts, so a car using 10 horsepower (fairly typical for cruising) is using about 7kW. So the 0.35 kWh in your scuba tank would drive a car for .05 hours, or 3 minutes.
 

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