Energy-momentum tensor: metric tensor or kronecker tensor appearing?

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The discussion centers on the definitions of the energy-momentum tensor in relation to the Lagrangian density, highlighting two forms that differ in the treatment of the delta symbol. The first definition uses the Kronecker delta, while the second employs the metric tensor. The main question raised is whether these definitions are equivalent or merely a matter of convention. Clarification is sought on whether the delta symbol represents the Kronecker delta or a tensor derived from the metric. The conversation emphasizes the importance of distinguishing between these interpretations to avoid confusion in tensor notation.
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This might be a stupid question, so I hope you are patient with me. When I look for the definition of the energy-momentum tensor in terms of the Lagrangian density, I find two different (?) definitions:
{T^\mu}_\nu = \frac{\partial \mathcal{L}}{\partial (\partial_\mu \phi)}\partial_\nu \phi - {\delta^\mu}_\nu \mathcal{L}
{T^\mu}_\nu = \frac{\partial \mathcal{L}}{\partial (\partial_\mu \phi)}\partial_\nu \phi - {g^\mu}_\nu \mathcal{L}
Which of the two is correct? Is this somehow a matter of convention or something like that? I have seen both more than once.
 
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Thanks, this makes sense. Am I right to say that
T^{\mu\nu} = \frac{\partial \mathcal{L}}{\partial (\partial_\mu \phi)}\partial^\nu \phi - \delta^{\mu\nu} \mathcal{L}
and
T^{\mu\nu} = \frac{\partial \mathcal{L}}{\partial (\partial_\mu \phi)}\partial^\nu \phi - g^{\mu\nu} \mathcal{L}
are the same only if one makes the convention that {\delta^\mu}_\nu is no longer just a symbol for the kronecker delta but a tensor, namely {\delta^a}_b = g^{a c} g_{c b} and that then, \delta^{ab} = {\delta^a}_b g^{bc} = g^{ab} but that the two are not the same if \delta^{\mu \nu} is understood as the kronecker delta?

If I see things correctly, one has to look carefully if an appearing delta is just a symbol for the kronecker delta in components or really a (raised or lowered) version of the metric tensor. This is slightly confusing.
 
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