Energy-momentum tensor radiation-dominated universe.

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the relationship between the energy-momentum tensor and the equation of state in the context of a radiation-dominated universe, as referenced in Sean M. Carroll's lecture notes on General Relativity. Participants explore how the energy-momentum tensor for highly relativistic particles relates to that of photons and the implications for solving relevant equations in cosmology.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the energy-momentum tensor for radiation can be expressed in terms of field strength, suggesting a connection to the equation of state for highly relativistic particles.
  • Another participant explains that the energy-momentum tensor provides the continuity equation, linking conservation of energy to the equation of state, which relates radiation density to pressure.
  • A different participant states that the equation of state allows simplification of the stress-energy tensor components, indicating that highly relativistic particles can be treated similarly to massless particles in this context.
  • One participant seeks clarification on how the equation of state specifically relates to the components of the stress-energy tensor.
  • Another participant elaborates on the form of the stress-energy tensor for a perfect fluid and how the equation of state reduces the number of free parameters, allowing for a relationship between energy density and pressure.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the relationship between the energy-momentum tensor and the equation of state, but there remains some uncertainty regarding the specifics of this relationship and how it applies to different types of particles.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express assumptions about the applicability of the equation of state to various particle types, and there are unresolved details regarding the implications of these relationships for solving equations in cosmology.

binbagsss
Messages
1,291
Reaction score
12
I'm looking at 'Lecture Notes on General Relativity, Sean M. Carroll, 1997'

Link here:http://arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/9712019.pdf

Page 221 (on the actual lecture notes not the pdf), where it generalizes that the energy-momentum tensor for radiation - massive particles with velocities tending to the speed of light and EM radiation- can be expressed in terms of the field strength.

So it says that at such speeds , the particles become indistinguishable from the speed of light as far as the equation of state is concerned.

My Question:

How are the energy-momentum tensor and equation of state related? How does it follow from this fact that the energy-momentum tensor of the particles takes the same form as photons do?

Thanks in advance.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Hmm... The energy momentum tensor gives you the continuity equation by taking the conservation of energy equation (8.20) in the page you referred to.
On the other hand the equation of state relates the radiation density to the pressure eq (8.21).
And that's how you can solve the continuity equation.

Then because the equation of state does not distinguish between highly-relativistic particles and massless particles (by the choice of w), the continuity equation solution won't change.
 
binbagsss said:
How are the energy-momentum tensor and equation of state related?

The equation of state is a relationship between different components of the stress-energy tensor; it allows you to simplify the equations by not having to separately solve for every component.

What Carroll is saying is that the energy-momentum tensor for highly relativistic particles has (at least to a good enough approximation) the same relationship between components as the energy-momentum tensor of radiation. So you can use the same solutions of the relevant equations for both.
 
PeterDonis said:
The equation of state is a relationship between different components of the stress-energy tensor;
In what way exactly?
 
binbagsss said:
In what way exactly?

The stress-energy tensor of a perfect fluid is ##T_{ab} = \left( \rho + p \right) u_a u_b + p g_{ab}##, where ##u## is the 4-velocity of the fluid and ##g## is the metric. Basically this says that the SET is a 4 x 4 matrix which, in the rest frame of the fluid, is diagonal, with elements ##\left( \rho, p, p, p \right)##. Here ##\rho## is the energy density and ##p## is the pressure (as measured in the rest frame of the fluid).

The equation of state is a relationship between ##\rho## and ##p##, so it reduces the number of free parameters in the above from two to one; with it, you can express everything in terms of one variable.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 0 ·
Replies
0
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 36 ·
2
Replies
36
Views
2K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
3K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
2K